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My dream team for the show included the wives of Pastor Mason Betha’s wife, Bishop Eddie Long, Creflo Dollar and even Montell Jordan, who’s reportedly retired from music to be a ‘worship pastor’ in Atlanta, but while I’ve heard one or all of those women were woo’d for the show, NONE of them agreed to sign on.
[FLASHBACK: Reality Show Alert! Atlanta Preachter's Wives Coming To A TV Near You... ]
I don’t know about you, but I can’t keep up with all of these doggone reality shows… but this ain’t about me. It’s about the “real church wives” of Atlanta who signed up to have air their drama on the new TLC reality show called “The Sisterhood.”
If the show resembles RHOA, there’s a good reason…
An extended introduction of the church wives + watch the full 1st episode of “The Sisterhood” below…
The show is billed as follows:
A candid look into the lives of devout yet fierce preachers’ wives. Known as first ladies, these women work to ensure that their families and churches run as smoothly as possible. As wives of preachers in Atlanta, first ladies are held to high standards. But like everyone else, they experience struggles and triumphs.
The show follows them as they navigate through marital troubles, financial issues, parenting challenges, personality conflicts and even demons from the past.
Innocent enough right? Well let me tell you, the saints are up in arms about this one! There is already a petition to have the show taken off the air and they took to Facebook and Twitter with a vengeance.
I am having mixed feelings about it. With me being the wife of a Minister it shows that we are human we all have issues and we don’t walk around talking about Jesus all day.
We are still wives, mother’s, friends etc… Yes it’s messy but who on Earth has a perfect life?
We’ll just have to continue to watch or not to see how it pans out.
I agree. If it’s entertaining, we’ll just have to watch to see how things go.
I know people of the church are human and have flaws, so for some to call the show “blasphemous” is going a bit too far. I agree that the “reality” of reality shows is that it turns those who choose to participate into “spectacles” for our entertainment, but that’s their choice… and if these things go on “in real life,” what’s the problem?
Meet the wives of TLC’s “The Sisterhood”:
Christina Murray: It’s rare that to hear a first lady say, “I’m Dominican and I don’t play!” Christina makes it known that she’s a sassy Latina no one wants to mess with. She and her husband Anthony run one of the largest and most successful churches in Atlanta: Oasis Family Life Church.
But the success of their church also means they struggle to meet the needs of their ever-growing congregation.
And, if that weren’t stressful enough, Christina and Anthony also have to wrangle their two teenage daughters, who are just as sassy as their mother.
DeLana Rutherford: It’s easy to look at DeLana singing onstage in her leather pants and spiked heels and mistake her for a rock star.
She and her husband Myles pastor Worship the Wonders Church, where music plays a big part in their ministry. They write their own music and perform original songs at every Sunday service.
In addition to her love for music, DeLana is passionate about helping children. A mom of two, she often acts as a surrogate mother to young members of her congregation.
Domonique Scott: Domonique is anything but a typical preacher’s wife. She’s bold, brash and unapologetically honest. Domonique was saved after enduring a troubled childhood on the rough streets of Miami.
Eventually she moved to Atlanta, where she met and married Brian, an Evangelical pastor. The couple has two daughters together.
After years of growing The Good Life Ministry, the Scotts fell on hard times and were forced to close the church’s doors. They are now looking for new opportunities to fulfill their calling, and Domonique is hoping to repair the damage that losing the church caused to her marriage.
Ivy Couch: Most first ladies don’t have a colorful past like Ivy. As a former member of the girl group Xscape, Ivy lived the partying life of a pop star.
But since meeting her husband Mark, pastor of the Emanuel Tabernacle Church, Ivy is singing a different tune. She’s now a dutiful first lady, wife and mother to a one-year-old son. Her not-so-wholesome past helps Ivy relate to and connect with her inner-city congregation.
For the record, Kandi has clarified Ivy’s connection to Xscape, stating:
Tara Lewis: When people find out Tara is a first lady, they usually do a double take. She’s fit and fabulous (and her wardrobe leaves little to the imagination).
Tara and her husband Brian recently relocated their family from Los Angeles to Atlanta so Brian could pastor a new church. However, Brian, who was actually raised Jewish, lost his position at the church after only six weeks.
Now the two are struggling to find their footing in a city where new churches and new friends…are hard to come by.
What are your thoughts on TLC’s “The Sisterwives”?
Is this a good look or a slap in the fact to Atlanta’s church community?
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Its a hot damn mess
Right. What did Atlanta do to deserve of these ratchet ass reality shows? The church is not safe anymore. **Shakes head is astonishment**
A hot mess that’s just boiling all over the place. Those women are hood-rats. They need to read Proverbs 31 immediately!
AMEN! I watch this show for entertainment. I know pastors’ wives can’t possibly act like that!!! How can others learn how to love and get along as God’s Word teaches over and over, if they can’t get along. They’re not only disgracing themselves, but they are also presenting the church they co-lead. They all need to stay at the altar until they develope a closer relationship with the Lord. Then and only then, will they be able to overlook each other faults; forgive and move on. BEWARE SISTERHOOD…..LEADERS ARE HELD MORE ACCOUNTABLE FOR HOW THEY CONDUCT THEMSELVES AND WHAT THEY TEACH OTHERS.
Well I can’t judge a book by it’s cover. Have to read the entire book first. So for now the jury is out on this one. God bless’em all!
Agreed^^^^
Interesting and ‘reality’ is what I say! This is what seems to be the problem with some christians now. People have to realize, CHRISTIANS (and any other religious person) had to ‘grow’ and develop a relationship with GOD. In other words, everyone that is connected to the spirit had to get to that point and it didn’t happen ‘overnight’, so let’s keep it real. This is REALITY for those of us that are in the church! You don’t have to wear the religion on your sleeves. Anyway, people are afraid to look at ‘reality’ through the views of church community, especially [among us] in the African American Community! Christians aren’t HOLY 24/7; I am sure some have ‘unpure’ thoughts (and remember, thinking it is the same as doing it), ‘get in the flesh’ (even when you try to fight against the flesh and spirit), so I don’t care what anyone says, this reality is ‘in your face’ and that’s ‘reality’ enough. Anyway, I am going to like Dominique and Tara. Ivy is cool too. #thatsall
Wrong. Real Christians are Holy 24/7. They are called saints and they praise God in everything they do. Do they make mistakes? Yes, but they also REPENT which means they don’t make excuses for their mistakes and actually try to change and be more like God. That’s the problem with Christians today. Toomany people trying to do what they want to do instead of what God says to do. Humble yourself and take responsibility for your actions and set yourself apart from the rest of the world like the Bible says. So unless God was mistaken when he said ‘Be ye Holy for I am Holy’ there is something seriously wrong with this show, because these women and these churches are far from holy. Furthermore, I’m sure that these pastors and wives know the parable of the rich man and the needle. Pastors that have more than they need or boast about their church size need to go back and read what the Bible says. Anyways, the point is to stop making excuses for yourself and just do what God says to do plain and simple. Read your Bible and do what it says and if you mess up, don’t try to justify yourself because God won’t accept your excuses on Judgement Day. And i hope i hurt some feelings because some of you so called Christians need to be rebuked.
Also, sign the petition to get this show off the air. The devil is a liar and I rebuke this mess in the name of Jesus!
@wrong say, I agree…where’s the petition
lmao!
AMEN!
say that
While I am probably one of the most laid back, keep-to-myself believers folks will find in the secular world, Wrong is literally RIGHT in their post about relationship with God. I’m all for meeting people where they’re at (which appears to be an oft repeated quote in this show); but once you accept Jesus and decide you are going to follow Him, you have to be clear that the end all be all is about your salvation and doing things for His glory. So essentially, a show like this really can’t be just about entertainment: the price that Christ paid in blood for our salvation as believers would not allow us to sell ourselves for something so cheap as infamy and worldly popularity. The redeemed of the Lord are called by his command in Scripture to be SALT and LIGHT in the world, and HIS command takes precedence over anything man or the world has to offer.
Even if we fall (and everyone does), simply KNOWING The Word is not enough- you still have to do your best to ABIDE in the Word in spite of the fall, not excuse it away, and eventually the concept of repentance HAS to come into play.
I wouldn’t have been so offended by so many instances taking place in the show had I seen people actually humbling themselves at some point, repenting, and trying to be that Salt and Light in the world, or at least towards each other; none of this is just random calls to judgement that I made up out of false indignation, but what we are instructed to do in Scripture. Unfortunately what I saw instead was a lot of people stuck in their flesh (which of course can happen to any Christian) by way of gossiping, lying, coveting, saying God’s commands were not realistic, and ect.
Of course these things can happen to anybody, and of course to those in the body of Christ. Doing whatever he can to dismantle the church and defile the Body of Christ gives the enemy great pleasure and is one of his biggest past times in order to make himself appear mightier than he is, but it was disappointing to see where people were not mature or discerning enough to see how pitting themselves against each other was falling smack dab into that very trap. It was particularly grieving to see how people weren’t even remotely willing to come out of their flesh and go for the Divine in their thoughts, deeds and actions. They were just fine wallowing in their spiritual gutter and throwing out the old stand by about grace and mercy to attempt to cover themselves and their behaviors.
Yes we are to forgive and extend grace and mercy just as Christ did for each and every one of us: but can you at least TRY to open a can of "Ackrite" on your end and have a sip? Cause whether we like it or not, those are the instructions in the Bible. When you think about the global saying that says "The Church is a Hospital"; like any patient, once you’ve gotten your diagnosis for what’s making you broken, while under care why on earth would one persist on doing that which contributes to their malady??? The idea is to go for wholeness and healing, or at least learn how to MANAGE your metaphorical disease or condition; and with the exception of one or two instances I saw no proof of that in this new show.
I also took big issue with the way the interracial couple are being portrayed as being so abnormal. I’m completely puzzled in this day and age how little American Christians know of their own spiritual heritage and it’s roots in Judaism, and how or why they are shocked to find the occasional Jewish believer. Messianic Jews have existed since Jesus walked and still exist in Israel today, although they are shunned from the Jewish community for accepting Christ as the Messiah, the same as Brian Lewis. Christianity began as a sect of Jewish believers accepting Christ as the Messiah, but back to first century AD they were either killed or banished to the outer reaches of the Roman Empire to squash the "Movement". Nowadays, they, like Brian, are just banned from their families and communities instead. Nothing unusual there, folks, and it doesn’t have anything to do with his wife’s race. Had Brian married a nice African Jew from Ethiopia who could trace her lineage back to the original 12 tribes, then his family likely would have been over the moon with joy.
The church is spending so much time focusing on Prosperity teaching instead of salvation, repentance, biblical literacy & historical context, it’s no wonder in many cases we can’t tell the Bride of Christ from a Whore of Babylon…and this show, if not careful, is definitely inching further and further towards the latter. I’m willing to watch further episodes (on youtube) with hopes that God will take control and His glory will be shown. Otherwise, this might simply end up being a cautionary tale for us all in just how far the enemy is advancing into God’s territory (as foretold in Scripture), that we are indeed approaching the last days… and that the "Little Horn" is about to start showing OUT.
Who died and make you the savior? God forgives and also acknowledges that we all sin everyday. Please dont be closed minded Christians come in differnt stages of devolpment but to judge another is just as wrong. I think this is a great chance to see how first ladies & pastors can relate to the everyday person because we all sin and fall short. Its a reminder that noone is perfect. And as a Christian we sometimes feel ashame to not only come to God with our struggles but also lean onto our leaders when we are weak for direction. I dont agree with everything this show is about but it surly put the REAL in reality and that something the world needs to see. Notjust watch the church channel and feel pastors are holier than thou and I
First, let’s make abundantly clear that there is only one Savior and his name is YESHUA, and NEVER in ANY place did I say, insinuate, imply, or proclaim that it was I, so let’s not put false words into my post that never were, nor never will be uttered by me.
I am simply offering my opinion here like anyone else, which is what people DO in DISCUSSION forums, on what I liked or disliked about the show, which I have a right to do. If we choose to differ on said opinion- fine, but it still does not change the fact that man either has to repent or die. I don’t know why that theme gets people so up in arms. I didn’t write it here for the sake of being holier than thou; it’s in your Bible, to—therefore it is what it IS.
So I will continue to stand by my opinion that in order to present a holistic picture of Christianity (if that is the intent of the show)- while it’s certainly true that everyone falls short, the topic of repentance should be addressed. Not more or less.
Agreed 100% with above comment.
Christian means Christlike. You must live your life like the bible say so. So many so called preachers and their wives are trying to live the new age religion. God is the same yesterday, today, and forever. You are suppose to separate yourselves from worldly things. These ladies look like the ladies in the clubs, bars, house parties. How am i going to go to the ladies talking and acting like that if they are doing the same things and acting the same way and wearing the same things i’m wearing. That’s like the blind leading the blind. I can quote the bible all day long. I can go write up a sermon and preach it on Sunday morning. Lol, doesn’t mean i’m a person of God though. When you become a true person of God. Old things become new. We all fall short because we aren’t perfect but don’t mistake that for not wanting to live the full life of God. I can build the biggest church, have the most members, feed a million people from my church, etc…. The list can go on and on and on. BUT
But let me finish saying that if you are not SAVED, SANCTIFIED, AND FILLED WITH THE HOLYGHOST you will not step into the kingdom of God. Don’t forget there are a lot of false prophets and the devil is one of them that can form into any being that he chooses. That is why it is so important to know the bible for yourself and go to bible study. Do you all realize the people always pick the same subjects to talk about in these ministries and never really talk about things that they will have to answer to. That’s because they pick certain things out the bible so they can live their lives without question. Ask them certain questions and see how defensive they get.
If You are not SAVED, SANTIFIED, AND FILLED WITH THE HOLYGHOST you will not get into the kingdom of God!
I had to raise my hands on this comment!! Let all of us say amen!! There has to be a distinction between the christians and the world. We live here, but we are not supposed to fashion ourselves after the world!
Say that again! People in the church are flawed and struggle daily just like all of us.
I totally agree with here. We are all human, and are not saying Jesus Jesus 24/7… Being a christian is a lifestyle but having and keeping a close relationship with God is an on going process, we never really stop working on it. I like the show. It takes the pastor & first lady off the pedestal that so many of these so-called Church goers put them on and shows the human side of these people.
I personally cant quite understand what Christians are so afraid of when it comes to this show.
@Meeka Blue, We are not afraid of the show…as I stated before We are totally aware of the fact that pastors have sex… the real thing is everything can be talked about; however, there are ways to discuss and inform without causing the subject to come across as disgusting and revolting as they have. The guy with the handcuffs…how crazy, what you do in your bedroom is your business (soooooo over the top) the guy who use the banana along with condoms when discussing sex with his daughters, and informing them of all the SEXUALLY TRANSMITTED DISEASES he has had in his lifetime (what the hell)… this is reality show at it’s best…trash, trash, trash… this is not insight on Christian pastors and their wives…it’s just for shock…
1 John 4:1 Beloved, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to see whether they are from God, for many false prophets have gone out into the world.
We can’t take looking at a Pastor and his wife discuss sex within a GOD ordained MARRIAGE…or a Pastor discussing realistic sex education with his children…but all day long we’ll read….comment….celebrate and chat on blogs about celebrity love triangles…celeb posting pics of weed…their crouches…celebs with multiple baby mama drama…celebs talking about freaking their unwed partners and people saying "Go girl!". But God forbid this type show….how dare they….
Amen. If you know the Lord and He rests in your heart and everything that you do, it is so easy to recognize this as the truth. The love for Jesus has to be inside of you for your light to shine without warrant.
I don’t think that most Christians are afraid of the show rather than seeing no inherent value in it advancing the Kingdom of God. I think I saw maybe one show review where somebody was freaked out about Domenique’s past, but that was their own superficial thinking in not realizing that one’s testimony is the proof of just what God can bring you out of and into a life of promise and joy when we choose to accept Him, obey Him, and abide in Him. I’m actually prayerful for the ladies that they will have the opportunity to be a vessel for the Almighty in revealing parts of their lives to us through this project. So far I just haven’t seen it yet.
My struggle with the show really is that for all the issues and faults the ladies have (and yes we all have them) why on earth do they choose not to address the necessity of repentance and obedience for a life fully lived in Christ? It’s like we’re being sold an incomplete bill of goods. if you’re a jackass sometimes, then fine, so are most of us…but you’re not supposed to be defiant for defiance’s sake about it and just REVEL in it: where is the modesty, or remorse for sin? Isn’t the aim of the show on their behalf to "help" people, or hopefully bring someone to Christ? I’m not seeing thus far how this show is building the ladies or its’ viewers up in Christ. In Hebrew, Satan or Ha-satan means "accuser", "obstructer", "divider"… and sadly the show seemed to be geared more towards that vein rather than be edifying and shining the light of Jesus.
If I were not a person already in relationship with the Lord & deeply committed to Him and his Word- if i didn’t know Christ, I would see these women and the God they say they represent, and run for the hills. The only thing I’ve gotten from "where two or more are gathered" for the God they say they represent is envy, backbiting, and casting aspersions against the person sitting across from you. The Great Command thus far looks like it’s nowhere to be found on a show about Christians. Oh, the irony.
In all sincerity, I would LOVE to see more testimonies, or learn more about the presence and transformative power of God in these women’s lives (Domenique’s testimony is so POWERFUL!), but we get a bunch of he said/she said and vilifying actions instead. Where is the beauty of God in that? Where are the Fruits of the Spirit present in all of that? Do they really intend to at any point to show healing from darkness?
By no means should a pastor or first lady be put on a pedestal, but they do have a special call to use their lives as a vehicle for edification and glorifying the Father, Son and Holy Spirit. I was hoping for that rather than cat fights and people being stuck on the "self" when I started watching this show.
Beyond that: vs. being scared of anything, for me it really just comes down to recalling a lot of what we learn in the Old testament prophecies in book of Daniel, how that book correlates to the New Testament prophecies in Revelation of John, and accepting that Satan is going after the Bride of Christ (the Church) during End Times with all his might (as is foretold in the Word), and the sad realization that (a portion) the Church WILL eventually be dismantled and will fall in the fight (though that which is pure will rise from the ashes). We are beginning to see the signs of it now- and it’s grieving to see the beginnings of it come to pass in the houses of God in how people are treating each other, blaspheming the Lord, rebelling without repenting, making idols out of money and fame, and so on…and now we can even witness it on prime time tv. Have mercy.
When you see disciples or people in leadership positions basically repeating the same behaviors as the biblical ancestors in leadership positions did so long ago, disregarding God’s commands and carrying on… just like those in the book of Malachi who were then WARNED by God about what they were doing what the cost wold be…it’s not about fear, rather than approaching the issue of spiritual warfare in a very sober manner, and realizing that we are witnessing the beginning of things about to "pop off" in the spiritual world with Light vs. Darkness, and eternal life and death hanging in the balance.
Why I understand Dominque having a testimony to God because of her past, I do not understand why she felt the need to reunite with her pimp/baby’s father. Watching the episode, I did not see a woman who was trying to reconnect with him to save him, but I see a woman who went away, and somewhat made and wanted to show it off so she can show him what he missed out on. The way she acted when he said he would not meet her was the way a woman in love would act, or at least "in like." Her body language was screaming she was not over this man. Even when she was talking to the girl she "worked" with, she had nothing but opportunity to try and minister to her….nothing
I know that men and woman of the cloth are humans and they have made mistakes and will continue to make mistakes, but they just do not strike me as convicted. I will be the first to admit that I am not a Christian. Do I believe in God? Absolutely, however, when you see and hear all the negative things about the church, you kind of back away from it and form your own relationship with God. I have always said some of the worse people I know sit up in the front of the church every Sunday. These men and women of God are suppose to essentially be role models and who we want to model our lives after….
I totally agree with you.I grew up in the church.My family has quite a few Pastors & their wives.My mother is called the church mother,but the title does not define her.no more than the title of first lady defines my sister or my nieces,who happen to be Pastor’s wives.I watched the first episode of this show and what truly disturbs me is the out & out judgement that’s being cast on these women for their own personal truths.I have seen first hand how hard it is to be a young couple running a church.It’s extremely hard.My sister has shed many tears of pain inflicted on her,not by the outside world,but the people of the church who call themselves God fearing christians.They hurt her deeply with hurtful words.I know many times she felt maybe they should walk away,but she stuck by her husband’s side and she now is highly respected as first lady of their church.I know somewhat of the story of a Pastor literally paying the church & his own personal bills and how it could take a toll on a married couple.My parents receive a S.S. check once a month and they use it to pay the church bills as well as their own.Most of his members can’t even afford an offering & Tithes,but my daddy loves his church and to him he is called to be the Shepherd of his sheep and to lead.I’m just thankful that they have 7 grown daughters and 1 grown son,who can make sure they don’t go without any of their needs.Growing up in a religous household does not mean that your parents won’t dis-agree or have arguments,because they do.It’s realistic.They are human.My mom has her friends among the different churches and when they get together to talk about how their husbands or a church member may be working their nerves,it’s downright hilarious.They always end these venting sessions by having prayer for all they have mentioned & for themselves to be better as wives & first ladies to their congregations.I love the fact that my father has no problem in sharing who he was,before excepting Christ in his life from the pulpit and he always ends with,so if after all I’ve done God could turn me around and show me mercy,I know he can do the same for you.I have seen many come to the Lord aftr hearing his testimony.When we gather with friends,family & church families for cook-outs or dinners with my parents.My father blesses the food and I have yet to hear anyone quoteing scriptures.We just enjoy one another with no one more elevated than the other.So I don’t see this show as something these women should be ashamed of.If it reaches one soul and I’m sure it will,then it is not in vain.Church folks need to learn the scripture where it lets them know that God is quite capable of doing his own job of judgeing and let him do it.They’re only job is to love,forgive and pray for those that need it,starting with themselves..Amen??
I think that’s the point of people’s outrage. The experiences you mentioned, that’s the real experience of being in the ministry. None of that was accurately depicted on the show. Instead it was all gloss and gossip.
Agreed.
"Christians aren’t HOLY 24/7" That is so true because I see women P-Popping it with no pantie on at the club, then at service singing in the choir the very next day.
Didn’t like the show and won’t be watching again.
It stunk! And so did Tboz show
Renee Monique, stop telling that lie! I bet you will be peeking it again. It drew you in, right? uh huh haha
Now the TBoz show is moving a little slow. I hope it picks up. LOL!
smh
I will be watching. It was refreshing.
TOO MUCH!!!
Not bad I’m going to hve to DVR this show.
I will watch because if they that crazy to put the business on tv, then thats between them and god. But it dont look like no first ladies i no.
I like Tara/Brian. It seem as if they have an interfaith marriage, and I don’t get why everyone else have a problem with them. Especially when the other couple are in a interacial marriage themselves.
I believe that Dominique, Tara and Brian will be the break out stars of the show.
There is alot of potential..it may get better as the plot goes on.
The other thing to is that there is alot of people jugemental going on especially when they live in glass houses.
The problem with interfaith marriage: One spouse is going to Hell and the other isn’t, that’s the problem. Political correctness means nothing in the afterlife… You can be as nice as you want, but if you aren’t born again you’re going to Hell. How serious is an eternity burning up in flames to you? I’m not afraid to tell the truth like some of these other "christians." There’s too little emphasis put on the afterlife nowadays and that really needs to come to an end.
you need to go take your meds!! at the end of the day..we all believe in the SAME GOD!
all that "Christianity is the real deal" – is only a reminiscence of the colonial times- we white supremacy was trying to undermine all other religions as "heathenism"
rather you call him Jehovah, Allah, whatever they all have the same meaning-GOD…
religion and its rules are man-made, created to divide us and at the end of the day its all about your relationship and spiritual connection with God.
WHO ARE YOU TO SAY WHO IS GOING TO HELL OR NOT… I didnt Know God Read and Commented on Michelle’s Blogs.
Sorry WRONG but you are WRONG..it’s not up to you to determine who is going to hell and who isn’t YOU need to live your life as the Father has intended and not worry about anyone else..you’re the type of "christian" that will stand in front of heaven’s gates not understanding why you can’t get in..too bust judging when that is against God’s word..you’re the type the devil loves..Hell is filled with people like you..arrogance is a sin and you are extremely arrogant in your belief..
1 Samuel 2:3 Talk no more so very proudly, let not arrogance come from your mouth; for the Lord is a God of knowledge, and by HIM actions are weighed.
HIM..NOT YOU
I hear you. But the thing is they aren’t even in an interfaith marriage at this point: Brian, unlike his forefathers and thus like other Messianic Jews, has chosen not to reject Christ as the King of Kings and has accepted him as the Messiah. So I don’t get what disturbs people so much about them, they both believe in Christ as Savior. People forget Christ was a Jew himself, and that on top of everything else- they are, according to God’s word, the chosen people.
And the thing with the Domincan/African American married couple: even they aren’t that "different" from another if they were really honest. I have spent plenty of time in the Dominican Republic, and they have the same racial make-up as we blacks do in the United States. They too are descendants of African slaves mixed with the blood of white European slave masters (from Spain) with occasional variances of native/indigenous blood in the mix. But, as in most other former African slave colonies, when they come to the US they try to pass as anything other than part black, or even those who are obviously full on black, and that is essenitally just a con to be "other" in a way which is more socially beneficial to them (my best friend is Dominican and even she admits this). The fact of the matter is that more African slave ships went to colonies in the Caribbean, Central, and South America than to the United States- and the number of black people of African descent in those locales FAR outnumber us in the USA: we were/are smaller in number, but we just happen to have the loudest voice and widest influence in terms of international voice on the cultural and political stage.
I promise you, if you go to the Dominican Republic- it looks like an island full of Atlantans, or Clevelanders, or North Carolinians ranging from the lightest of lights to the loveliest of dark complexions from their African slave ancestors, and they just happen to speak Spanish. It’s a beautiful place with beautiful people, and when you get there you feel like you just entered black paradise; everybody looks like you, or your aunt or your cousin. They will mistake you for one of them vs. the "gringo" tourists that come there from the EU, and will be shocked that you don’t speak Spanish.
The first episode wasn’t too out of line, but I’m still not sold that this can be a respectable yet entertaining show. Not to mention, it would leave a bad taste in my mouth to see women in their position turn into catty drama queens.
is it possible that we can hindere by putting them in a box
oops I meant is it possible we can hinder others deliverance by putting them in a box?
I call it the outward holiness syndrome.
if God can use a donkey to send his word he certainly can use imperfect church leaders.
People. Just because you go to church doesn’t mean you’re "saved". Some of the meanest people I have ever met go to church EVERY Sunday. Know who you are, have your own personal relationship with God and the rest will come together. I don’t look for any of these so-called preachers to get me to heaven. I’m getting there all by myself. Read "The Reverend Curtis Black" series. It will open your eyes. Google it.
Co-sign.I can’t with mess like this, seriously shaking my head.I guess "church folk" aint gonna be nothing,huh?Some pastors and their wives "call’ themseleves to preach.The Lord didn’t say nothing about this craziness here.SMH
let’s not forget to pray for them while we are asking God the cover our mess
I felt this show was a HUGE cruel joke!! And I swear, how manymo’ shows can be filmed in Atlanta???!
What people shouldn’t do is take what they view from the women on this show and their families and postulate that all first families and/or believers and followers of God/Christ Jesus are like them.
Not that they are bad people by any means. I would never state that. But every first family and follower of God is unique in his/her own right.
I actually enjoyed the show. The interracial couple do weird me out. The way he talks is just wrong. It’s too much. I can’t wait for people to start letting their guard down and the truth about their lives and personalities come out.
@Tamara – Thank you! Can they start moving these shows to Detroit or St. Louis?!?! I live in Atlanta and I’m so over it. The Shorty Lo show is the newest low for Atlanta…google it. Crying shame.
Well…Shows coming to Atlanta is not my problem with the show. Let’s stay mindful that when these shows are filmed here so does money for the city. I’m guessing with the highest rated reality shows being filmed here around Atlanta…maybe that’s why there is so much interest. I just don’t like the look this is giving people of God.
But, hey…this is why I really don’t go in these buildings.
No matter how much they all said they loved God when they sat down to dinner, they all judged the interracial couple lol. Just gossiping lol
I liked the show!!
I enjoyed the show but I would NOT sit under any of the pastors on this show!! The Pastor that pulled out the banana with the sex talk was vulgar to me, he might as well have pulled out his penis the way he was acting, I thought the Bible says things are to be done decent & in order, That WAS NOT decent and his wife should have been having the sex talk with the girls & he should have taken the secondary role in that talk!!
I’m confused how was that not decent? Was he suppose to use a dildo to show his daughters the right way a condom should be put on? I think it was awesome to see a father interact with his daughters in such and way and be so open and honest. He’s protecting his daughters while being realistic at the same time. Who’s suppose to show them the right way to put a condom on? His penis-less wife or let me guess you think that’s something that should be learned only in school. Both parents should be present during the sex talk that’s the problem with families now a days smh.
SMH!!!… Let’s leave it along… i am not here to debate the issue with you if you don’t agree with what I said, just state your comment without taking aim at me…Love
Mothers lead the sex talk. It’s not done to titillate viewers, it’s for the education of the daughters. I thought that pastor was very immature. His wife wasn’t that bad. She put me off with "we bout to be a mega church!" statement. I didn’t know church was a business now.
CLT- church has and always been a business. You can gather, pray and learn your holy book in an assembalance of people. Church’s first priority is always the bottom line, thats why people must always "dig deep" to help out the 19 projects the church has going on.
@Unique Chica, I have 2 daughters that I raised in church and they are both college graduates with no children. I talked with them about sex along with my husband, You can talk to children about sex without doing & saying all that foolishness your pastor was doing, talking about he had VD and who all he was humping & bumping!! You call that decent?? Go sit down some where.
Lady B at the end of the day who are you or I and others to decide what God will do to them. If that is how he deal with his children, that is what he does. And how you deal with your children is your way…Just pray that God will direct them in his will…not tell someone to sit down some where is that christ like…
Thank GOD…I thought I was the only one who thought that way! I like the fact that both parents were present, I think it was great that dad represented how easy it is to catch diseases through sex. He showed his girls the proper way to prepare just in case they are with dumb boys. They are not leaving it to the streets and the school systems to teach their children proper sex procedures. It is stupid to not teach kids sex caution at all just because you are a minister because you find more sexing going on in the church house than you do in the whorehouse! Back in the day you could get away with beating around the bush with the sex talk…not this day…you better bring it and bring it RAW AND CORRECT! Not aiming at anyone..just posting a fact since I work with teen mothers in the area.
I dont see a problem with the father demonstrating how to put on a condom. Some married women dont use them, and never applied one to a man themselves. I rather the father show them how it is done, so they can protect themselves and the young man they will have sex with. When I was in HS sex education was taught in freshman year, but their were some incomeing freshman that were already pregnant, so maybe sex ed needs to start in JHS.
@Tamara mIller I’m from here and they are using the word Atlanta loosely. Dalla,GA is not Atlanata which is where the dominican and her husband’s church is located. Alpharetta and all the others were always called by their names not Atlanta. That’s to new folks on tv. They make me sick everyone one of them..This area used to be for smart people(i know there were some locations that were crazy), but as a whole it wasn’t like every city is jacked, but I wish they would stop acting like Georgia has one city Atlanta is the capital, but we have 59 counties and hundreds of cities.
@Preaching to the Choir
You are not getting there all by yourself Jesus paid your way…Give Him thanks and Praise!!!!
I saw the show. I was born and raised in the "Black Church". My mother has her Masters in Theology and has been preaching since I could remember. Over 85% of her friends are "First Ladies", so I grew up with all of them also. My Godmother is a "First Lady." I could quote scriptures that would prove how the behavior of these women is wrong. However, I am not going to be all "deep". Although, people inside of the church have issues, the reason why they are in church is because they want a deeper relationship with God to help them with their issues. The thing about this show that pisses me off is it leaves no hope for the hopeless. People attend church that were raped, hungry, poor and need spiritual guidance because they need to reach heaven in a way that some may feel they don’t have enough strength to do. They go to their spiritual leaders because they are hurt and confused. The Pastor (and first lady) is there to stand in the gap and pray for their congregation when they don’t have enough strength to pray for themselves. Which is why people hold the pastor and their wives in a high standard because they feel they could help them and stand with them when all else fails. I saw next week’s preview and I see that the "First Ladies" are going to the club. Ok, I see the show as entertainment, but I also see the show as a way for people who were two steps out the door of the church, headed out. I would also add, after this show is done and over with, these Pastors and their wives will not be received in another church. Meaning, nobody is going to want them on their pulpit. We all sin, don’t get me wrong. However, deliverance is something every saint should want. These ladies are saying, "I have my flaws, except them." Which may be true, but not when you are held accountable for other souls. They have an influence on souls to make it into heaven. The pastor taught his daughters how to have safe sex. As a father, he may have been right to do. However, he is on the show to show how a pastor acts. He just taught the world and his children how to have sex before marriage. I am not even going to get into Dominique; I think we all know where I am going with her. As Christians, they are Biblically wrong. As entertainers, well they are getting the job done.
your points are very valid and i have to say i agree with you. we know that drama sells for reality tv, but this show (this episode) does NOTHING to encourage the person that sits on the fence with their relationship with god. if these are pastor’s wives – they’re on a pedestal for a reason – they received/accepted "a call" to be leaders in their ministry. i understand no one is perfect, but at least TRY to lead your congregation by EXAMPLE, both on and OFF the pulpit. this depiction of preacher’s wives rubbed me all the way wrong. it’s hard to watch the gossiping, the rudeness, the jealousy, the sex talk (wtf?!) …almost everything. im no "bible thumper" but nothing about this show sits right. i’d say maybe it gets better/deeper – but from the club scene in the upcoming episode – aw hell naw, lol.
I agree with your comments. A lot of people see the church as a joke, a grand hustle, and a scam, and this show isn’t helping that perception. There are people out here truly lost and looking to find spiritual guidance and help, but I don’t think I would want any of these people leading me anywhere.
One of these wives said something to the effect that people hold them to higher standards than other people, but they are human like everyone else. They are human, but because of their so-called "calling" they are and SHOULD BE held to higher standards. If they can’t handle it, then they shouldn’t be there.
SAM, I totally agree with every word you typed. I was raised in church, and this is not the manner in which ANY first lady carry themselves. As you stated, " as Christians they arer Biblically wrong but as entertainers they are getting the job done." If they loved the Lord,(as I heard one them state) ever felt His presence,or had ANY understanding of His grace His word would TRUMP any and everything else especially the entertainment world! How can they provide guidance to a flock when they are still misguided themselves. I do not follow organized religion at this point in my life, seeing these frauds provides me with confirmation that I am on the correct path of Truth and Light.
Ummm he did not tell his daughters to have sex he know the real out here um bishop TD Jakes daughter has a child out of wed lock when she was young so he is keeping it real..I have a 17yr old he is scared to death of me but he still might have sex without me knowing ….It happens he just want to prepare them and there is nothing wrong with that…
I am so glad I am saved and believe JESUS DIED AND ROSE AGAIN ON THE THIRD DAY FOR SINNERS LIKE ME! THANK YOU LORD JESUS FOR LETTING ME HAVE SENSE ENOUGH TO READ YOUR WORD FOR MYSELF WITH WISDOM AND UNDERSTANDING!
I knew nothing of the show until I saw this clip; however, I do know first ladies are humans and they ALL have their public and personal personas. Their marriages are just as much work as the average church member…the real ministers of GOD just know more about how to combat those problems. I don’t know, so I want judge the show because it may be on for a Godly reason, because GOD does work in mysterious ways which tells us to lean NOT to our own understanding of those way.
I truly thank you for your summation.
That show was a hot mess. When Ivy and Dominique were at the boutique gossiping about Tara they were dead wrong and were showing the world why so many people get turned off from the church. This show looks like it’s going to be just as bad a real Housewives and my gaydar was going off on some of those pastors.
I agree about the gaydor Meeka, I told my husband it was something suspect about 2 of the ministers being on the downlow!!
YES. That’s exactly why Dominique was whispering. She knew it was wrong to be gossiping about Tara.
I live in Atlanta and I’ve never heard of any of these people BUT if there are people who still sit in front of bishop Eddie Longstroke on the pulpit, and no one is protesting that, then I don’t understand why you people would get upset over THIS.
Riite!
Those people who still support Eddie Downlow is some sick people. They better watch out…because what happened in Guyana….can also happen in Atlanta.
ATL is turning into a modern day Sodom & Gomorrah!!!
Agreed.
Lol
LAWD THIS SHOW WAS FIREEEEEEEEEEEE 2!!!!!!! IM sold.. Sorry for yelling lol!
As a Minister’s wife, I don’t know think it shows the church in a positive light. I mean it looks more glamourous than soul saving. Put some churches on here with the dignified Deacons, Old school Church Mothers, and Prechers casting out demons. Oh I forgot no one wants to see that. They want to hear about being blessed with Materialistic things rather than hearing about how their sins is going to send them to hell. Whatever.
Absolutely…@Escalady…It’s one thing to want to look your best and feel your best to do your best….But, all this she was Soo fine..stuff lol side eye. I’m hoping that’s not the "main" reason you married your wife…as a Pastor lol..now if you re Rick Ross…I’m expecting this type of talk..lol chile next.
Then, worrying about you in the inner city..they not. Youre in the inner city delivering God’s word and doing God’s work…or are you looking for collections? I can’t
But, I’m sure all this is the point of the show…to get people talking and maybe wanting to watch. But, I grew up in church…it’s disturbing to me…I wouldn’t want to know these things about people that are suppose to encourage and inspire. next
Says First Lady "ESCALAD"y……ha
I said I was a Ministers wife, not a First Lady. Yes I drive an Escalade because that’s what God has blessed me with. It’s nothing glamorous about that, it’s my SUV lol.
I watched this show and I LOVE IT because though it may not be the life of a PASTOR AND FIRST LADY any of you may know. It is someone else’s life they’re living.
I REFUSE to stand in judgement of any of these people, because I don’t know them, nor do I care to know much about them nor their personal lives, other than what these people portray on their reality show.
None of us live by the GOOD BOOK and until we do, we should learn to stop passing our way of living onto someone else, because those people could give a rat’s ass about how we may feel about the lives they live.
In closing, I look forward to watching the next episode because it was fun, and entertaining to me. I could care less about who has or don’t have in this reality show. I’m not watching it to see who has the most money or members in their church.
I wish them all the best in whatever they’re doing or are trying to do!
Um. I live by the Good Book and so do a lot of other people. Maybe you should stop making excuses and start doing what the Bible says? Do you think God is going to accept your excuses? What’s so hard about doing what the Bible says to do?
Come to my town and you will see some real women who lead Godly lives. Them pastor’s wives are not even trying and this is coming from a heathen. They aint even spiritual!
I actually love Domonique..however I do NOT care for Tara and her husband..I grew up with holier than thou everybody going to hell but me people and they are an instant turn off..A call to minister is not to quote scripture at every chance..some people need to be TALKED to in a way they understand, then you bring in scripture to show them the way..to put yourself on God’s pedestal IS blasphemous and to me that’s what they are both doing..I want to know the REAL reason why they were asked to leave their church..however I can guess about a 100 of them
FORGIVE ME FATHER FOR I HAVE SINNED!!! LMAO
Let me begin by saying Ain’t nothing good gonna come from this show; OK, OK maybe a few laughs for those who already laugh at Christianity & God… the guy who sat down with a banana to talk to his daughters about sex is the sickest cramp I’ve ever seen in my life… talking about all the sexually transmitted disease he’s had is soooooooooooooo over the top crazzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzy…
The other guy with the handcuffs for his wife and his “I’m going to give you the best sex ever” would be laughable if it wasn’t so tasteless… let’s get one thing clear WE know where babies come from, and WE know that men & women have sex…Soooo What The Hell is this Foolishness all about… OH, I FORGOT RATINGS…The real reason I am angry is not because of the way they are portraying pastors & their wives (because they do not represent pastors & their wives) they represent people in need of money who will do anything to get some… it’s just another sitcom; unfortunately, it is a slap in the face of the Christian churches across America… Am I worried about the effect this show will have on young people…YES… I think I will allow my FATHER to handle this mess…don’t sweat the small stuff…
I was angered by the fact that it is on TLC which usually invests in tasteful shows for family viewing… and because of my selfishness…I was really looking forward to watching a good Christian based show… OH WELL… Everyone in the church isn’t about God’s work… Much Love…
1 John 4:1 Beloved, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to see whether they are from God, for many false prophets have gone out into the world.
@Diva89 Did you drop the word on us : ) Amen
Didn’t she politely end that post with a word from Him?Go head, gurl!
Well, I’m not going on a rant : ) But, It’s interesting to see how social media and reality tv has such an impact on people of the church, especially people that are suppose to be delivering God’s word and living it, teaching and bringin folk to God. The black guy questioning the Jewish man about what it’s like being married to a black woman and does his community accept it. *Side eye* But, I’m guessing he was dying to tell his story…since his wife is not black. I can’t….I’m floored this is even on.
I watched about 12 minutes of it. What I’m not….is a follower. I’ll pass.
Just reminds me of how you have to stand for something…draw a line and stand behind it.
AMEN!!!!!
True, why in the world would he ask that question you don’t even know theses people smh
Amen!!!
We all f$$ked up in different ways. Nooone except GOD is perfect so imma just let HIM be the judge. He will deal with them like he’ll be doin all us in a matter of time! @Lady B, I was thinking the same thing and then they televised this shit in conjunction with Gods name! (The whole banana thing was distasteful and in a sense disresptful to them churn. Mama shoulda stopped dat!!)Smdh! Anyway, who am I?!!
You could see she was uncomfortable… how embarrassing and disrespectful for his kids. As we both stated earlier God will deal with them … IJS…Oh Well
Yes, it was a bit much, on camera with the kids and all…but he was right about holding the tip of the condom and making sure it goes all the way down to the base. It was informational and maybe it will help someone and prevent diseases and unwanted pregnancies.
This show is boarder line disastrous. Bless their heart…….
I really don’t know what they HAVEN’T made a reality show. This one is interesting to say the least. The two things that stood out in my mind were Rasheeda’s kinfolk Ivy claiming Xscape(chile, boo, we still don’t know you) and Tara’s husband saying that "you ain’t really married till the cops come to your house…several times." I can tell how this is going to go this season already, and I have my popcorn VERY ready.
Thank ya! Why the hell is he revealing so much on first meet to people you don’t even know! And how the hell him and o girl last 16 years! Seems like they having a clash about the same GOD! I mean cuz once he started talking that Jew shit at the table his girl was all up side his head with the eyes!!Idk girl! It’s interesting to say the least. I think if they wouldn’t have made the premise of the show about being pastor wives, comments wouldn’t be so critical of their actions/behavior.
Gurrrll, I got my popcorn and wine on RETTY (not ready, but retty) for this train wreck.
Tara’s husband gives me the damn creeps. Other than the fact that I think he’s a closeted hot gay mess, something about him just ain’t right. At all. It wouldn’t surprise me if all kinds of skeletons start falling out of the closet on him.
I got so much I can say about this show already, but I’ll save it for later. All I know is that church folk have more demons in them than Raven from the Exorcist.
@ShayShay or anybody: answer me dis…..is the gaydar everyone is hinting at talmbout the Jew and the Banana man?!!! Somebody please relieve me!! Lol
"The Jew and the Banana Man". TOO DAMN FUNNY. LOL, its has to be hinting to those two because those sugary vibes were sweetening my tv screen quite nicely in every one of their scenes. The Jew talks way too much-a sure sign he is hiding something, and the Banana man just comes across suspect, period.
"The Jew and the Banana man" are most definitely on some Sweet-N-Low ish. LOL
I just want to know if they are going to show the church service at worship with wonders where the pastor throws water on the congregation to make a point, from the water bottle he had just got through drinking out of. Yuck! And…i also am curious to see if they are going to show the staff from these churches taking out their entourage with the church credit card, paid for by the church members.
Just sitting here waiting for a mugshot pic to post from one of these ladies, lol….
Tara has gotta have sumwhere-I just KNOW it!lol!
Tara for sure but it will be Domonique before anyone else..she already alluded to things in her past
I was not impressed with this show. I don’t look up to NONE of these First Ladies or Pastors. Ivy gossiping—Domnique not encouraging praying to work through her marriage, Tara showing her body, Dominique and her hubby don’t sit right with me—I’m not judging just basing it off of what I saw. I think I’m shocked.
@suthernhummingbird: I had to call em something cuz I have never heard of em idk no names! But yes hunny I was wondering the same but didn’t wanna take it there too soon. But on some real shit, did pastor wives really need a show! I mean seriously, what are they trynna show us. Then folks trynna ban shawty lo tv show- shhhhit, these hoes got mo drama then tha baby mamas seem like! What really need to do is ban this bullshit, in the name of JESUS! (Imma be watching tho!!
And in that order(Hallelujah!)…LOL!
blasphemy!!! lol
Now from looking at that photo above, two of them are not wearing ‘church’ lady shoes. I call boofoonery on them. LOL
This show will be on my phuckery-pick up list, right along with Shawty-Low and all his baby mamas show.
Let’s face it… this show ain’t real…but it fit right in with the rest of society tasteless reality shows and it gives US something else to comment and laugh about… OH! speaking of reality shows…Kim Kardashian is pregnant for Kanye and she’s still married to her husband…how that for class …I’m Just Saying… LIFE
This show is GARBAGE… It’s almost as if they are making a mockery of religion for the sake of that almighty dollar.. Can anyone say "petition".. this crap needs to go off the air before it is on good…
I’d seriously be headed for the door if I was under any of these ministries. I rather watch shawty low and his baby mamas then some fleshy pseudo Christians playing church!!!
As crazy as this world getting "ain’t nobody got time for dat"
of all the women portrayed, im most pleased with tara. by she and her husband seem to be led the word or God. she presents herself and her marriage as true and genuine. i pray she and her family are elevated through this.
Bye, Tara..In Jesus’ name.
^^^^^^^Girl yo ass is silly!!! Not tha bye Tara!!!
In other related news(news anchor voice,lol)
Michele needs to get the tea on tha sustah& tha lady killer lookin pastor that’s involved in this fraudulent activity with a tutoring program! They supposedly defrauded tha state a sumtin like it! They all look a lil suspect aka fraudulent especially Tara n tha Jew. I like "crackpike"(she said dat shit not me!) but seems like she and lady killer got shit to iron out& shawty is not interested!!! Hell naw!
@Tamara keep that MESS in Atlanta where it belongs! I’m from St Louis an we dont want to deal w/this mess thanks but no thanks…..
Straight clowns. And that picture of Tara looks as if she needs a make up artist. Real title should read…Hood Rats in sheep clothing…
And we wonder why Jesus haven’t came back..smh!
I have visited Oasis…..Pastor Murray is anointed and children love his realistic approach of his ministry. His First Lady leads the women ministry with great forward thinking relatable initiatives. If this show leads those in need to visit a church…any church..and one soul gets saved… It works for me! We’re trying to remove God in all facets of life now.. The IS reality….Jesus came to the people….the people are watching reality shows……
"and children love his realistic approach of his ministry." He MUST love and cater to the kids, because he sounds two steps away from the short bus to me. I guess I’m too grown to appreciate his illustrative banana presentations.
I guess you’d rather have your kids become teen parents…dead from aids…..I’m sure your grown abilities will get you threw that…wake up…
Actually, I would rather my child practice abstinence until she is grown enough to make sound decisions, like I did. Now go find you something to do before you "guess" again what I would have my child do-let your grown abilities help YOU with that.
Say it again!!
Just something to think about…Has Atlanta become reality TV’s go to bucket for dysfunctional entertainment staring and featuring African-Americans? OK, we’re not in the ghetto and most of the people are living well, however were still being depicted as clowns!(Ne-NE and her clown hair and personality to match hair- and Tara’s horrible weaves and bipolar attitude) It’s not real, it’s all done in the hopes of make money and branching off into other streams of revenue (Candy, Phaedra, Cynthia etc.). However the problem is our children and sadly some adults don’t know the difference between real and pseudo-reality…just saying.
Dang Atlanta…. ya’ll lose for this one. SMH. Keep ya heads up Atlanta ladies. This too shall past.
Ok, I loved it! Other than Tara’s bad, bad, bad weave, I thought it was ok.
But, then again, I look at it for what it is…ENTERTAINMENT.
For those that didn’t like it, no need to sign a petition to take it off, just don’t watch!
PLEASEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE can WE sign petition MSLY…I don’t want you to watch it either…LOL
Im so watching!
I really like Tara and her husband’s story and straight-forwardness. I like that their approach is unique and refreshing. I also felt that she made a lot of great points at the table with Ivy & Domonique. You can tell that she is passionate and believes in what she is called to do. I think Ivy is a bit gossipy; instead of uniting, she creates factions. I hope to learn more about Tara in upcoming episodes.
Let’s be real this show is not about how to be a christian. This is about entertainment and money at the cost of trivializing the church. If the pastor’s and first ladies job was not hard enough fighting outside forces now they must contend with this foolishness.
I am a Pastor’s Kid first off. To me this show not only affects how the church views first ladies, but also their children. Not only do they have to deal with psychotic church folks, but now they have to put on a show for television.Sad. These kids are going to have issues when they get older because of this foolishness. And another thing, why are these 40 year old women dressing like strippers in the church house. Nasty.
I agree…where are the examples…this is just another avenue for the world to justify and bring repraoch against Jesus church!!!! The spirit of GOD speaks expressly, "Jesus tells Peter that upon this rock I will build my church and the gates of hell shall not prevail against his church. However, there are alot of men churches being built on the premise of: filthy lucre (getting mnoney through deceit), false doctrines, entertainment, worldiness, comprising of the Gospel of Jesus, operation of skills instead of the Holy Ghost, etc…..the list goes on!!!
I am not naive to the fact that issues will be present in the lives of Saints, but we have an advocate (Jesus Christ)that we can go to AND be forgiven!!!! JUDE 24 declares that he is able to keep us from falling and to present us faultless before the presence of God’s glory…come on now…THE SAINTS OF GOD MUST PRAY.
This show is absolutely what I thought it would be. These women were very judgmental. I do not like how they treated Tara. I also found it deeply troubling that one of the woman would say that she was going to have a baby with her husband even though he told her that they shouldn’t have another child because they couldn’t afford another child. These women seemed so fake – outwardly one way, yet a different way at home. I can’t tune into this show again. These people are just too hypocritical for me.
I found the show to be interesting. As a Rabbi’s wife ( which is different but still) some things the women talked about rang true to me:
1. Many times you can not be yourself next to congragents so you seek other cleargy wives to open up to.
2. Sometimes other women try to push their way to your husband ( I think Christina talked about that)
3. Sometimes husbands give all they have to the church ( money, energy, time, listening ear) and are so tried at the end of the day that the marriage suffers.
4. People expect your kids/ family/ life to be perfect at all times, sometimes kids suffer a lot of pressure.
The show might get a little too violent for my taste (from the preview) but there is some honesty been shown so far and I respect the women for opening up like that.
Yours is the only unbiased critique on here. their lives are not perfect, but these ladies are human. I wont judge them and I dont want them to judge me.
save lord save!!!!!
Whose wives are the White women? No topic seems to be off limits with these so-called "reality" shows. It seems the old saying is very true, $$$ talks, and BS walks. All of them are doing it for the MONEY people! I don’t know why people can understand this! It’s all about the moulah, forget that your whole life is on blast, your kids lives are on blast, even your dog and cat’s lives are on blast, etc, etc! You knew what you were getting into when ya signed your Jane Hancock on that dotted line! You’ve seen RHOA, RHOM,RHOBH, and all those other "Real Housewives" drama shows! So, chile please, …gimme a break! Put your big gurl panties on and deal with the criticism about to come your way. Sure hope for their sakes that none of their "men of the cloth" hubbies have ever been involved with child molestation, if so, they in trou-bllllle!
This is reality…
I grew up a preacher’s kid… my sibling and I had to dress a certain way..act a certain way and so on…because the church’s expectations of a perfect christian… in reality our family had personality flaws and dysfunctions ..like anyone else
Outside of their outward of appearance these women actually represent the different attitudes of many Christians today:
Delana…the new age christian, non-traditional style of worship but obviously loves the Lord and refuses to change because someone judges her
Tara…the "super" christian who places themselves on a pedestal so high they loose touch with reality… constantly scrutinizing another persons walk with God..ignorant of their own flaws..even if when others point them out
Dominique…the christian hustler..hopes the love of God will bring prosperity
Ivy…the pseudo traditional christian..publicly displays a traditional and modest lifestyle…but also may dip and dabbles in non traditional activities (breast implants)
Christina…the "realist" christian…loves the Lord…but understands life doesn’t always follow God’s rules…
@PK very good observations. especially about Christina. I too know how that is that why I always tell people we all have faults "WE ALL SIN AND FALL SHORT OF THE GLORY OF GOD" but don’t act like you don’t I always say their is a difference between a ‘CHURCH FOLK" and a "Christians" and that is church folk will see a fault in you and judge you and mess and even not fool with you, BUT A CHRISTIAN know that WE ARE NOT PERFECT BUT GOD IS and pray for you. HAVE A BLESSED ONE
I, for one, hope that the show is cancelled. One of the main things to identify here is PURPOSE! What is the purpose of this show? Is it a Representation of First Ladies, or the body of Christ? Although it’s possible to separate the two, the world most likely is going to see it all in one light and connect them. Therefore it is crucial that the body of Christ be represented respectfully, and with good taste!
I hear people say that the First Lady has to maintain a standard…no all of us that identify with the body of Christ, are held to a standard, and when any of us compromise that standard the enemy has just enough lead way to go in and wreck havoc.
None of us have apprehended, but please saints, let’s at least maintain some spiritual boundaries.
The Holy Ghost is the spirit of the departed one and we are told not to grieve Him. If you’ve been given a unique opportunity to let your light so shine before men …then please do God justice.
They ARE letting their light shine…God may clean you up but He doesn’t make you sinless..they have beautiful testimonies but NO they aren’t perfect.. through it all they ALL ARE devoted wives and mothers…living life and learning lessons..like everyone else
if you don’t like the show don’t watch it…
Obviously by your response you missed my saying that “None of us have apprehended,” so for you to comment that “God may clean you up but he doesn’t make you sinless,” was unwarranted.
If this is how you define “letting your light shine,” then you have a distorted interpretation of scripture. I agree they “are all devoted wives and mothers” but filming just “devoted wives and mothers was not the networks objective….now was it? If that was the case it would have been titled, “Devoted Wives and Mothers.”
Supposingly, the objective or intent was to reflect an image of First Ladies of the body of Christ and if this is what the viewers see as a representation, then I’m sorry to say that there is A Lot Left to be Desired.
I have no doubt that these are very sincere and decent women, but they are a far cry from what should have been exhibited on this show.
And you’re absolutely correct in saying, “If I don’t like the show don’t watch it,” but I’m yet entitled to my opinion of what I’ve already seen.
I would like to think these so called first ladies are teaching their followers something totally different than what they are displaying on TV. The scripture says,"there is a way that seems right to man." Undoubtedly these young ladies think what they are doing is right, therefore they can not see the damage they are doing to the KINGDOM OF GOD. OUR is to pray for these women.I did not say "first ladies" because at the present time they are not presenting themselves as "first ladies." God’s mercy and grace abounds to all even these young ladies. God will not allow His church to be less than what He called for it to be.
Please PRAY for them; and the churches they stated God has called them to lead. Because this can cause a lot of people to fall. Sisterhood is a good example why we need to read the Word for ourselves; to know how we are to conduct ourselves as men and women of God.
I pray that even if they’re acting this way for the money, that the Word will renew their minds! And their ways will be restored back to the way God command His children to conduct themselves.
We fall down…..
American Blacks are an embarrassment. This show is quite (pardont the expression) niggerish, from the weaves to the amens.This portrayal makes me long for the Huxtables.
Oh shut your ole African booty scratcher ass up.
^^I wish I would have read this before I actually responded to you on my post…I would have definitely typed a simple lol…you are clearly just attempting to stir up bs….how old are you, like 12….because that is the last time I heard the term "african booty scratcher"
It’s safe to assume your an African booty scratcher too?
Damn, I almost said your momma, then I realized I was grown. My face is a non-factor but since you brought it up, I am half Italian and half African American and way too much of an adult to continue this conversation with someone I feel will never be on my level.
Oh my God, I turned to this trying to hurry up and just get the channel of Rubio because I could not stand to hear anymore of his bs about the potus….lawd, please tell me the nation is being punked. Please God tell me that this is not the portrayal of not just black women, but black women of the church. Please tell me that some middle aged white guy is going to jump out and say you are on candid camera. Sitting here watching this mess with my Serbian fiance makes me cringe and shutter in embarrassment, me being an African American woman. There has to be a better representation of black people, specifically black women out there. I am about to go on an all out boycott with all of these damn shows. We need to see that this is just modern day slavery in a way. They let us have our black president, however, they are constantly putting us back in our place by perpetuating these stereotypes for the whole world to see. No wonder we are still judged by the masses based on our skin color, that is all they know. Think of the states in the midwest where the black population is like 2%; they don’t have black neighbors or black co-workers,….but they have cable tv….we gotta do better.
You have got to be kidding me if you think "we" African Americans are judged by the masses because of negative portrayals in the media. When are you ignorant black folks going to wake up and take off the blindfolds. If the POTUS is an exemplary role model of the African American race and he’s criticized and judged for his skin color…what does that tell you? Black people as a race will ALWAYS be unfairly judged regardless if your a productive member of society or not. I’m sure your Serbian boyfriend hates you too and once he gets his green card he will leave your black ass…don’t be surprised.
My Serbian fiance has his green card dear and has had it long before we started seeing each other. As far as ignorance, you comment on a post on a blog insulting a stranger; you my friend are the ignorant one. As far as the POTUS being judged on his skin color, again, another ignorant assessment on your point. He is judged on his politics and no matter the race of the POTUS, he will again be judged in where he stands on politics…i.e, George Bush, Bill Clinton. And WE African Americans are judged by the masses based on whatever material is accessible to them. I have traveled all around this very small world and just as the farmer in Wisconsin will look at us as the uneducated, ignorant stereotypes that are willing to sell not only our soul and reputation of ourselves, but also the reputation of our children for a few reality tv coins or a damn youtube video, so will the African from Kenya. Your negative attitude in your post towards my Serbian "boyfriend" and my "black ass," drips hatred and perhaps it’s not your skin color that people are judging. I look at the content of this reality television show the same way I look at the content of "Honey Bo Bo.," disgusting and not the representation I want going viral about the United States. I am almost willing to bet that if I never mentioned the fact that I was engaged to a Serbian, your post would not have been as aggressive.
WAKE the fuck up. The white man hates the POTUS. The most liberal of white man hates him just because he’s black…period. They could care less about his policies and/or political stance. Right now you’re still in denial but when it hits your black ass you will remember me. Until then carry on in your blissful ignorance…ta ta!
ok guys lets not get off subject- about the show. Did you all see Domonique’s interactions with "J-baby"? This woman needs a serious deliverance from her past before she moves on to lead others.
Tiki, I commented on that too a few post up. It was so uncomfortable to watch. She clearly had way too many feelings for this guy which showed in her tears when he said he would not meet her.
Yassss!!! Dominique harbors deep feelings and attachment to J-Baby and her former life. Her behavior as a wife (forget first lady) was disgraceful and embarrassing. First of all, why does she still have J-baby’s number (after claiming not seeing him for years)? J-Baby clearly got her panties wet and she wanted a piece of him. If the cameras weren’t rolling she would have tongued kissed him and spent the night in his bed. I could not believe how she curled up in his arms and was talking about "you still got it"….WTF??? The shame her poor husband must feel after watching that. They also showed a new and final episode late last night. The episode where she gets married. Dominique is far too materialistic and worldly for the church life. She needs to get therapy.
Karen, I agree. I’m not judging just going by what I’m seeing from watching the shows, Dominique still have a lot of her past locked inside; although she claims to be free from it. From the words of her own mouth and her actions, she clearly still have strong feelings for J-baby!When a person is set free from such; they don’t have to go back to it to finalize their freedom. They go back because they still feel something for that person. Why else would she get so upset to even cry when at first he wasn’t coming???? That sister need our prayers that God renew her mind and help her to be the wife her husband need to lead a church.