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As you know, Long reached a confidential out of court settlement with the four men who accused him of sexual coercion, and their lawsuits against him have been officially dismissed.
[READ: Newsflash! Bishop Eddie Long is Out of Stones... ]
The View’s Sherri Shepherd feels some kinda way about Bishop Eddie Long…. and had a few choice words for him during a recent show:
If you are a man of faith, WHY would you settle out of court?
If you have God and you have INNOCENCE, those of the two most powerful things you have. David fought Goliath and he won with GOD.
So you know that that tells me? That tells me that something inappropriate going on…
In contrast, Creflo Dollar of World Changers Church addressed his growing congregation and told New Birth Members to return home:
If you from that church that you know what I’m talkin’ bout and you tryin’ to join here, I don’t want you here!
That is my friend! That is my brother in The Lord!
And in response to Long settling with his accusers, Dollar states:
He had a wreck, but he had insurance…
I can’t believe that people would leave their preacher JUST BECAUSE HE HAD A WRECK.… instead of praying for him.
Watch both explosive videos below:
VIDEO: Sherri Shephard BLASTS Bishop Eddie Long 6/7/11
Sherri, who got engaged earlier to the love of her life last Christmas, has a 6 year old son from a previous marriage.
Up until now, she has raised her son as a single parent, so it was no surprise that she was almost brought to tears making her emotional point about men who prey on single mothers with sons
When you’re a PASTOR and you say you have GOD in your life, if you are RIGHT you are going to be vindicated. God is not going to let your church fall, he’s not going to let you go bankrupt.
So when you settle out of court, it just says something was wrong and it makes me very angry because people pray on women who don’t have a man in their life, who take their sons to people in authority… that they trust!
Sherri said a mouthful…. what else is there to say?
It’s clear that the Bishop lied about those 5 stones and yet he’s still preaching from his high priced pulpit. Many New Birth members have seen the light and are attending other Atlanta area churches, but one in particular isn’t too happy about it’s growing numbers.
Long supporter and friend Creflo Dollar of World Changers is defending Bishop Long and tells New Birth Members to return home…
VIDEO: Creflo Dollar to New Birth Members
You gonna leave the preacher for his wreck…. when you done had more wrecks? The Blood will take care of his wreck just like it took care of yours.
I can’t believe that people would LEAVE THEIR PREACHER JUST BECAUSE HE HAD A WRECK.… instead of praying for him.
I mean… that pastor has loved them… has taken care of them… has given to them… he’s done for them… so he HAD A WRECK!
You had some wrecks! I mean… the mercy God showed you but you can’t show none to the preacher?
And then the gossip that’s in the body of Christ over the preacher that had a wreck? He had a WRECK…. here’s the good news.. HE HAD INSURANCE!!
The preacher in the city here, he’s still gonna go to heaven. He’s cleared… he’s alright!
And if you from that church that you know what I’m talkin’ bout and you tryin’ to join here, I don’t want you here! That is my friend! That is my brother in The Lord!
And if you came from there, you get on BACK OVER THERE and do what you’re supposed to be doing. Because he had insurance, and Jesus paid the premium.
Dollar wants all y’all to know that no one is flawless and that his friend Long is still anointed.
Wrecks… Insurance vs. Taking advantage of lil boys in the church? Hmmmmm?
Great sermon, but I honestly don’t see the comparison…
Thoughts?
Creflo Crook needs to _ because no one should be turned away “come as you are comes to mind” and if I was trying to join that, the excuse (guess the rocks still MIA) and saying knee gro umm arah last day at World changers.
Both of them need to STOP! How long do these preachers think there manipulation will last?…CREEPLO and EDDIE WRONG need to STOP! And folks need to start thinking for themselves!
They both need to stop!!! They are freakin RIDICULOUS!!! The church folks are payin this “Settlement”!!! It ain’t right!!!
Lol @Creeplo O–I-< *dead* I called him Cashflo earlier
If what Creflo Dollar is saying is true about his friend having a "wreck", then obviously Eddie Long lied to his congregation when he said that he was totally innocent of the charges.
What hypocrites Sherri Shepard and Creflo Dollar! Using another mans tragedy to raise their celebrity profile and speak as experts on religious matters. Where did they go to Divinty School?
It makes you wonder that is for sure
Liers stick together scriptualy Eddie long should be Removed according to the 1Timothy 3
Qualifications for Overseers and Deacons
STATES 1 Here is a trustworthy saying: Whoever aspires to be an overseer desires a noble task. 2 Now the overseer is to be above reproach, faithful to his wife, temperate, self-controlled, respectable, hospitable, able to teach, 3 not given to drunkenness, not violent but gentle, not quarrelsome, not a lover of money. 4 He must manage his own family well and see that his children obey him, and he must do so in a manner worthy of full[a] respect. 5 (If anyone does not know how to manage his own family, how can he take care of God’s church?) 6 He must not be a recent convert, or he may become conceited and fall under the same judgment as the devil. 7 He must also have a good reputation with outsiders, so that he will not fall into disgrace and into the devil’s trap.
8 In the same way, deacons[b] are to be worthy of respect, sincere, not indulging in much wine, and not pursuing dishonest gain. 9 They must keep hold of the deep truths of the faith with a clear conscience. 10 They must first be tested; and then if there is nothing against them, let them serve as deacons
iptures
In a world so full of questionable and erroneous thinking, the truth shines brighter than the noon day sun!
I have been in conflict with my spirit trying to justify Creflo’s defence of Eddie Long, with no consideration to the victims. Now Creflo has offended people in the church, Eddie Longs and others, by the defiant and accusing tone degrading people who are wounded sheep, looking for help because their shepherd went astray! Everyone affected by this needs help and prayer, not condemnation. Raising the possible abuser up to members as if he were a victim is denial and accountability and confession is needed to become healthy again.
Lift up the fallen, if at all possible, and help restore them, but the innocent need this as well who have been affected by unexpected stumbling blocks put in their lives and church.
Before using Scripture for a situation its wise to gain more clarity of tha Scripture
@alexandria…don’t think it has anything to do with raising celebrity stature( for sherrie that is), but as a single mother I understand her point of view! WRONG is WRONG! We all our voicing our opinion…like you and I are doing now!!! Truth is the truth!!!
I new that Eddie Bishiop was Gay the first time I ever seen him on the Heisha Cole show talking to Neffie. I had never seen him before but when he walked in, I immediately noticed the black nylon tight shirt. It screamed Homo to me and I didnt know who he was. I couldnt understand a man of the cloth trying to show his large biceps and be sexy. I believe if a nun had big titties, I don`t think we would see her in a low cut top showing off her boobs. Something wasn`t right with that Bishop.
U know what I aint going to comment on the Bishop Eddie Long’s situation because I already had but Pastor Create a Flow of Dollars need to shut up and need to apologize to all the victims of molestion – that is just ignorant talking – and why pour more fuel on an already messy mess. Gospel Singer Darwin Hobbs made some excellent points on his twitter page about this matter and Media Mogul Roland Martin went in !
How about Kraft a flow dollaz Duane lol I almost fell outta bed when I saw that name this am. I know we have one judge but he was out of line turning folks away bottom line I digress about the ovah mess. *tosses mic adjusts hurr looks for them stones and sashays away*
this foolery was on the View? oh i can’t
[...] Sheri Shepherd blast Bishop Eddie Long, Creflo Dollar comes to his defense – Straight from the A [...]
You have a son you love so does Sherri I understand where she coming from. For years ppl tend to sweep stuff under the rug, like it’s okay when really umm it’s not.
oh i would be in jail right now if that were to happen to my son – no if and or but and i know Johnnie Cochran aint here to defend me but yeah i will go to jail for my son.
*brace yaself Bible thumpers* John 3:16 does say that whosoever believes in the Lord shall have everlasting life, but that’s only ONE part of our worship and salvation. Because in Matthew 7:21,22 Jesus warned us about people like Eddie Long, that they will appear to be holy but full of LAWLESSNESS and that He would DENY EVEN KNOWING THEM and that they WOULD NOT enter into heaven! So you can believe in God all day long but if you are professing to be a spiritual leader and preaching against homosexuality, then later that night SEXTING and SCREWING young boys in the NAME OF GOD while pretending to be a faithful married man, I call that BLASPHEMY!!! So think about THAT while you defend this low-life S.O.B.!! *slams mic*
Now I’m starting to wonder what kind of skeletons Crooked Dollaz got in his closet. Maybe he got good insurance, so it wont come out.
Please explain what kind of wreck he had. So is Creflo saying it is alright to sexually abuse children if you are a minister? You can call it a wreck and all will be forgiven. Creepy Dollar should have kept his mouth closed with that B.S.
People better wake up and stop putting so much faith in these money-hungry homo-sexual preachers.
Yeah, he had a wreck alright…a hit& run more like it! When these Pastors start repenting to God,God will cover them again. Until then the candles are being removed from the church.So if anyone is from Eddie Long church being address that way from anothet Pastor; you just dodged a bullet!!!! The church is anywhere where two or three is gathered in the Lord’s name."Stay with me now!"Amen
Christopher!!! No you didn’t slamm the mic..haha
This is a hot mess.. he had a wreck.. Creflo you sound real stupid and using the pulpit to spew your opinion is out of line. It is about right and wrong, but more importantly, it’s about principle and if someone was accusing me of something I "DID NOT DO"–I would fight to the end to clear my name. Long is well respected and has more than 25,000 members that trusted him to WALK AND TALK truth, and maybe it doesn’t require that, but it at least requires that you "PRACTICE WHAT YOU PREACH." Long is a crusader AGAINST the LGBT community, and probably performs at the "drag shows.." Dollar you are a Joke and Long is an even bigger Joke.. and I encourage his members to "study to show thyself approved" and not depend on a man in a pulpit to teach you about God, because according to Creflo, the man in the pulpit is not exempt from having a "wreck".. like adultery, lying, stealing, molestation, sleeping with young boys, all while still taking your money and buying mansions, black diamonds, and bentleys..
these were not little boys….they were 17,18,19 year old young men….i dont support what Eddie did,he should not be a minister. But ,those young men knew right from wrong and in the beginning said they wouldnt settle unless they got a public apology etc…now they is taking the dough..makes me wonder if they were after money in the beginning anyway.Men can be gold diggers too. In my mind,the only victims here are Ed’s wife and his church family…..because its adultery and both parties knowingly committed that sin.
Long has a huge "engine" behind him. Do you actually think those boys had any other option, but to settle?
4 words (PIMPS IN THE PULPIT)
"Leave, I don’t want you hear" If I remember that’s God’s house, not yours. His comments just added insult to injury. He looks bad himself for making such statement.
Also the money he swindles from his members is the money he used to settle his mess…and then to ask for more money from regular everyday folk is just distrubing….and to top it off…the money he used to cover up that nasty mess is money he could have used to help some of his members that may have lost there houses and don’t have food on the table….or to help people really in need….He is a disgrace….its one thing to forgive him for his mess but he is in denial and won’t even admit that he is a pervert…Granted most of those young men were old enough to know what was going on and some of there parents may have pimped out there boys…but he was in control and he is wrong…on so many levels….and for another pastor to justify his demons is even worse….WHAT IS THE WORLD REALLY COMING TO….
I guess that’s Creflo’s excuse to do dirty, he has insurance and God will forgive him.
At 17, 18, & 19, do you really think they were mature! If you know many young boys then you would know that at that age they can be coerced into a lot of things! Especially if he began fostering that relationship with them years before. He chose young men who had no fathers and became that man in their life. Gave them money, took them on trips around the world, introduced them to stars like TI and the whos who of Atlanta. He listened and consoled when they talked about the pain of not having their father in their lives. He chastised them when they werent obeying their mother or not doing well in school. When that man then starts to touch you in places and you say stop and then he tells you from the bible why this is ok. You should say no but do you have the maturity to do so and see through the nonsense? Think about it.
Creflo needs a kick in the behind!! Long/Dollar are just conning folks for money. Of course he gonna stick up for friend, Longs paper running low. If a scandal "hit Dollar’s church he would remove that person from his staff. Who would stay and listen to a child molester preach? Yes ALL have sinned, duh. Yeah, Creflo your friend did have "insurance" and he used it to settle with those boys.Nasty b*****d.
I agree with Dr. Dollar that all have sinned and fallen short of the grace, but God holds those that He has chosen to a higher standard. Long was standing up in feont of a congregation condemning a certain work and practicing that condemnation himself all the while. Yes, forgive him, but remove him. Some wrecks are not worth sticking around for. Some wrecks are accidents, but others such as a drunk driving wreck are preventable.
What are you really teaching God’s babies (age not a factor) when you do not practice what you preach. There are those deserving, who were truly called by the Lord to represent here on earth, and I don not believe Long is one of those who were called. If Dt. Dollar is shouting so loud on Longs behalf, then of course some folks are going to start holding him suspect also. If Long was truly called to service by the Lord, he would have trusted in God to support him just as the Lord supported David against Goliath. How can you teach a congregation that God conquers all and then turn tail and run from a situation yourself. Now where was this man of the cloths trust and belief in God.
Good job on this post. I’m pleased at how God is apparently using my video to generate discussion and open minds to truth.
Peace,
NYTN
Ur video has started a mess that has cause more unneccesary talk about men (people)of God. U all have a lot of nerves. Regardless to what has happened if u belong to God ur covered by the Blood of Jesus for anything u could ever do. I’m not saying that what has happened is right or who should be in the pulpit cause this is not our call that’s God’s call. A terrible mistake may have been made he may have missed the mark but does that make ur faults any less than his for u to bash him? Does being a man of God make u a super human. I can understand people not being comfortable being under his leadership but under his leadership many have been delivered from their past failures. Thats what Pastor Dollar was trying to get people to understand. My point here is not condoning what has happened its that we should realize that we should be careful bout what we say about others but instead pray for them. This is to avoid walking into a curse on ur life
Let God be God! Eddie Long has to answer for Eddie Long on Judgement Day! Whatever he has done or is doing, he will have to answer for.
This is not much different from the priests with the alter boys, and the Jim Jones massacre. Long got these young boys to believe in his teaching and then he devoured them. No, they were not little children in the eyes of the world, but they were babies in their trust and understanding. I do not like to think of myself as some one who judges anyone negatively, but when I tried to watch Long on television long before this scandal broke, there was just something about him that made me feel sick.
As for Dr. Dollar and any other pastor who thinks it is there right to turn worshippers away from the house of God, they are out of line. Regardless of how Dr. Dollar, tries to hammer in his tithing doctrine, it is the members of the church who keep it functional. Dr. Dollar knows the word very well, so he is not a stranger to the passage about "wolves in sheep’s clothing." Who can the people and the children trust, where do they turn, what now can they believe…when the sanctuary turns into a place where raptist, sexual predators, and deviant persons of ill repute, are held in high esteem. Dr. Dollar, when I was growing up, my parents used to say "birds of a feather flock together" I found that phrase to hold a lot of truth.
Long, and no other predator can be allowed to lead or call themselves representatives of our Lord. They must be removed and sent back into the pews to learn from real men of the cloth, and there are some representing in noble standing.
As a brother who knows Christ and who has been delivered and is continuing to be delivered, I find this message SAD! God does forgive and he has forgiven me for many many of my sins. However, just because I am saved does not give me a liscense to mistreat, steal, and rape others and then rest on my past good deeds to "pay off" my new sins. Eddie Long was wrong! He needs to accept that he was wrong. We should not be decieved, Eddie Long is NOT the victim…he is the perpetrator. Should we forgive? Yes, but that does not mean we ever have to break bread with him again. In my humble opinion, Creflo got this one wrong. Just because a rapist wears a suit and preaches does not make him a better man than those rapists standing in a dark alley with a sharp knife. The security breach is much more devastating when it comes from a "man of God" than our ideal criminal. Again, this message makes me SAD!
Rob. says:
June 8, 2011 at 3:09 pm
"Just because a rapist wears a suit and preaches does not make him a better man than those rapists standing in a dark alley with a sharp knife."
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STANDING O!!!
I have never heard of a pastor turning away members. Its an absolute shame. I am not surprised that Dolla is taking up for long. Not to long ago ppl were questioning them both why they had so much money. That was no wreak. I just can’t get over a man of God telling ppl you are not wanted here I know God is not pleased
17,18,19 …these boys know right from wrong period…..the only coercion was money..cars,jewlery…rent on apts and tuition payments….thats hoein for dollars…dont care it its man or woman. If u havin sex for gifts thats prostitution and if u in the church like u claim(the boy went in on Youtube)u know what prostitution is. Iam sorry,they said they were gonna make him accountable then just waited for a bigger check. In my eyes they are no better then his snake ass.And as far as the Eddie Machine makin them settle,the boy told the world he wasnt excepting anything less then a public apology in Feb,like Ed said he had five stones…now when he said that ,i felt for him….then to hear he was just waiting for a bigger check….he’s no victim. Like i said earlier the only victims are Ed Long’s wife and his church members….and the rest of us who have had to listen to this crazy shit for 9 months.
I found the comment Creflo Dollar made to be very insulting. The man settled out of court so you will turn people away from your church because he is your friend. It like saying to a child yes your father touched you but go back home God got this. Okay! smh
[...] Dollar, who is the pastor of the World Changers Church in Atlanta came to the defense of Bishop Eddie Long during a recent [...]
We all knew that Eddie Long was not telling the truth, and he had the nerve to use David as an example, Karma will come back to hunt this idiot, Eddie Long’s wife need to get tested ASAP, who knows what he has given her ??? And Creflo needs to shut up, because who knows what is going on in his church, ask Creflo why did he hide Evander Holyfield’s money while he was going through his divorce, he did not want Holyfield’s wife to get any of this hidden money, this is why Holyfield has gone downhill, Also Crelfo Dollar did not want to give any information about his annual income when ask by a guy who was investigating Mega Churches on a News Special about 2 years ago, God does not like ugly, Snakes of a feather flock together. This is why people are skeptical of any church nowadays, because of idiots like this. I’m sure Creflo has skeltons in his closet as well, remember we all have sinned and come short of God’s Glory, and the church said "AMEN".
This is all an abomination that causes desolation! I’m telling you I am a new resident of Georgia and there is indeed something in the air! I’m off to see the wizard cuz I sure don’t feel like I’m in kansas anymore! (Klicking my heels 3 times)
This is a mess!! Now Wreck is a derivative of sin? Really!! We dont call sin "sin" anymore.
The problem I have with this is NO ONE is holding Bishop Long accountable.
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The problem I have with this is that people will STILL give their money to this rapist and still sit patiently listening to his posturing bellowing dramatics every Sunday KNOWING God CAN’t approve of this demon in His house! People for some reason are drawn to these carnival barkers.Even Jimmy Swaggart and Jim Baker who went to jail for rape and embezzlement are back in the pulpit,raking that money in.The shame belongs to the blind congregated idiots that tithe to the demon actually believing they are tithing to God.God wants your deeds,not your money.Give God’s tithes to the homeless shelters.Then you’ll actually KNOW that God is using your money.
The reason no one is holding "Bishop" accountable in the Pastor club is because they all want the same thing."Pimp Code".They gotta git them stacks.How else they gonna buy tailored suits,swiss watches,caddy for the church (Bentley for the home).Only the congregation can hold them accountable.Looks like it’s time to pull an "Afro Spring" on these bastards!
Wow, preflow..ummm"your friend" had a wreck?If you were a good friend, you would have quietly put this dude away AND then publically asked him to step down because of the allegations were just to blatant to ignore. But, umm… I know how you birds stay close/flocked together and I bet some of yall even helped pay for that hefty settlemnt-he aint the only one with a "taste" for underage guys, just the only one got caught.It is a sad day in this world, when a minister tell the flock to go back and sit with your attacker, the person that manipulated you and your family. We are definitely living in the last and most evil days.Mind numbing confusion.Please read your Bibles for yourseleves, cause you can’t trust these manipulators and deceivers on the television to tell you the truth.SMH
Manchild, I don’t think EL’s wife was blind to his likes and dislikes. She knew there was something strange about her husband’s affinity or attraction to youthful guys. Women have a "sixth sense",you can tell when something is not right with your spouse.I looked into her eyes and could see she knows something.So, I don’t know about his family being victims, nobody wanted to call him out on his mess and it came out anyway.I am sorry, but you can’t run or hide form evilness.
I cannot believe a man in the pulpit proclaming to be a PASTOR would open his mouth and say those things. First of all, that CHURCH is not yours….it’s the LORD. You do not turn anyone away from SALVATION, THE WORD and fellowship in the Lord. If Mr.Long members can’t get what they need under his leadership….Mr. Dollar you are required to accept them with open arms. Church is not a BUSINESS. PASTORS are losing their souls due to MEGA CHURCHES and MILLION DOLLAR LIFESTYLES. GOD is not happy with us. Bishop Long and Creflo Dollar shame on you for your behavior towards God. May God have MERCY on your souls.
Creflo Dollar’s real name on his birth certifate is (Michael Smith) why did he change his name to creflo Dollar. I know some goes to his church who became homeless while in that ministry what ever money they could borrow or recieve what ever they had they gave to that church…. never was offered a ride to church.. when are people going to wake up god is not please with Michael Smith Aka creflo Dollar
Believe it or not, that actually is is real name, since birth: Creflo Augustus Dollar, Jr.
http://www.answers.com/creflo+dollar?gwp=11&ver=2.3.0.624&method=3
If you doubt him, fine. But, to make up stuff and include it in your argument greatly diminishes your argument.
We atheists don’t stress over this mess. LOL Isn’t it time to get real people? Stop letting the pulpit pimps drain your pockets. Free yourselves! Try rational thought for a change. Find more constructive ways to fill your Sundays. Volunteer at a hospice. Tutor some kids. Cradle some crackbabies at a hospital. Read a damn book! (non-fiction) Seriously. Read the The Bible cover to cover for yourselves, not through the interpretations of others. They don’t any more than you. Divinity degrees be damned. Read up on the origins of Christianity. Folk walk around calling themselves Christians and no
…NOTHING about the religion. *smh*
[...] Sherri Shepherd Blasts Bishop Eddie Long + Creflo Dollar Defends His Friend… [VIDEO] [...]
Well said my brother!! AMEN!
This negro last name is DOLLAR?? GTFOH, this is who came to his defense, and you telling fellow Christians "I don’t want you" there was a much better and encouraging way to say that, but we dealing with pimp mentality niggas who have just happended to swindle yall southerns out of your money. BOTTOM LINE, that "insurance" was the peoples’ money, and the "wreck" was still a wreck, but like all wrecks when do we find out who was at fault. All these mega-church negros are scary, they could piss on you all on Sunday morning and you still would come to 2nd service. Sherri WAS RIGHT, and you can’t refute what she said Mista DOLLA holla holla, cuz it’s VALID, which is more than I can say for your tenure. STOP SUPPORTING THESE RICH ASS PREACHERS TAKING YOUR MONEY AND GOING ON PRIVATE JETS WHILE SOME OF YALL CATCH THE BUS TO SUNDAY SERVICE…..REALLY PEOPLE IS THIS WHAT IT’S COME TO??? This does not make me feel good to be black or Christian yall niggas are a disgrace and disgusting and I hope all your churches fall and are replaced with TRUE believers.
Creflo’s vid was pulled but I read what he supposedly stated. It’s one thing to turn those people away and it’s another to compare a wreck that has mislead your church to a car wreck. I haven’t heard it from the pastor’s mouth but "supposedly" he was dead set against homosexuals in public. That’s living a lie.
With Sherri’s clip, I see mostly where she’s coming from but Michael Jackson settled his case. I didn’t agree with it but if you look at only a handful of facts you can understand that he didn’t harm those kids. I’ll leave the fact that the kid later said that he was lying on the backburner. In various states, Texas and Cali are two of them I believe, the state will proceed to try you in abuse cases. Good example is when Warren Moon’s daughter called 911 after he had a fight with his wife. His wife wouldn’t press charges but the state continued with it. Same went for Left Eye and Andre Rison. In MJ’s case, the state said that the kids would identify MJ’s private parts. If they would’ve done that he would’ve been in prison to this day. You can’t buy your way out of that. And what kind of parent would allow money to keep a "rapist" on the street? What kind of DA would allow that? I agree with Sherri on the predators but not ALL settlements mean wrongdoing. I knew from the beginning he wasn’t going to fight though. He wasn’t sending pics of spandex and Kangol’s to his wife so it’s amazing that she’s lasted this long. Pics were going somewhere. Tieuel Legacy! Motion
This is why it is so necessary to read & know the Bible for yourself. Because we clearly have examples of “wolves in sheep clothing”, that are fleecing the flock among dispicaple & applorable acts by ractional thinking people.
I don’t remember Jesus having any wrecks or having the need for insurance. I do remember Sodom & Gomorrah, when the men were having sex with men, everyone was drinking & partying that the Angels came down to visit Lot the men wanted to have sex with the Angels that they (from boy to old men) surrounded Lot’s house trying to get at the Angels to have sex with them. And God’s order to Lot & his family when he decided to destroy Sodom & Gomorrah was “do not look back”.
Lot’s wife longing for what was being left behind cost her life. When we don’t follow God’s laws we will lose our lives, if we’re following a mob, husband, pastor, or wife. Because you can’t serve two masters. God has given us his rules & guidelines we just have to read & know them for ourselves.
Peace!
Mr.Dollar, I can imagine your intentions for the church members, God has already cursed you to carry that label. Pass the Offerings
First of all to all the people of God out there speculating and speaking ill of the Man of God or any man or woman of GOD YOU SHOULD STOP IT!! The bible us to look at the plank in our eye before we try to point out the plank in our brother eye. Bishop Long has a setback and as Pastor Dollar said go back to your church and continue to serve there. The first think you gotta know and realize is that a Man or Woman of God Is still a human being or a man first. The problem with people is that we get too caught up in the man and the office instead of the one in charge of the man. Every man has had a flaw and done something wrong or been through a storm at one point or another. Now i do agree that Long should sit down but remain Pastor because regardless he is still the a pastor despite what man says or think.He has to work on himself and get back in right standing with God. Then to those of you who leave a church because the Man of God had stumble or setback needs to reexamine the reason you came to church in the first place. Did you come to look at the man instead of God? Man gonna always let you down especially if you put them on a pedestal and they fall off the pedestal.
I don’t see the comparison of a wreck vs sexual misconduct with boys. Creflo Dollar,in my opinion is wrong to reject ppl wanting to leave from under the leadership of a wrong pastor. We all know pastors are human and fall short but when you have that kind of Sin in your life maybe you aren’t the best shepard to watch over God’s flock! Sexual Sin of any nature is not godly! Maybe Eddie and Creflo need a refresher in the Old Testament to see what God did to the ppl with Sexual Sins!
Did these men "call themseleves" or were they truely chosen by God to lead? Because you can tell who called them by their behaviour and actions-you can tell a tree by the fruit it bears. Who said they were men of God and who chose them?If you asking me personally, ummm… I don’t see where they represent the true calling of Christ, I just don’t see it.Deceivers on every side, but it’s now time to wake up,people.Whatever is in you, be it good or evil, will come out.
Well creflo is right about forgiveness, but he is not being sensitive to the victims or the church members. If this were his son he pobably could forgive Bishop, but I know he wouldnt dare step a foot back into that church. I’m not being judgemental, but why is Bishop settling if he did no wrong? Why are the boys excepting compensation for an heinous crime that clearly needs to be dealt with? If he did this and he was truly a Godly man he wouldnt have a problem with confessing the truth b/c it will truly set you free. You wouldnt care about your other people judgements or your image, you would want to get back right with GOD. If guilty, he should apologize to the victims and his church and step down so he can let GOD retore him back to his rightful place.
Mega Pastors have mega egos. These mega centers seem to be cult-like and most of the members put their fatih in the man and not the Lord. If the Edward was that innocent then don’t settle. All this insurance and premiums paid by the Lord that is Creflo talking. They are sharp talkers. Are they having a relationship?
I WISH I COULD POP CREFLO PENNY IN HIS PHUKKIN MOUTH!!! THIS MAN IS BASICALLY CONFESSING THAT HE TOO HAS WRECKS THAT MAY SOON COME TO LIGHT. ALL OF THESE FALSE PROPHETS, LIARS, SCHEMERS AND SCAMMERS ARE CUT FROM THE SAME CLOTH AND WERE TRAINED BY THE SAME DEMONS. THEY ARE NO DIFFERENT THAN THE CATHOLIC CHURCH THAT IS WROUGHT WITH HOMOSEXUAL PEDOPHILES AND PEDERPHILES. THEY ARE ALL OUT TO GET YOUR MONEY AND YOUR BOYS. YOU DESTROY THE MAN THEN THE WOMAN AND CHILD SOON FOLLOW. WAKE UP YOU SHEEP!
John 8:44 Creflo and Eddie…this one’s for you!
You are of your father the devil, and your will is to do your father’s desires. He was a murderer from the beginning, and has nothing to do with the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he lies, he speaks out of his own character, for he is a liar and the father of lies.
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Godly men don’t sexually prey upon others nor lie nor pay for their crimes with their follower’s money.
I swear people in the church have willingly sacrificed their common sense. Common sense and instint and intuition are the gifts that God gave you to help you survive in the world of satan. USE YOUR GIFTS! Stop yielding to the serpent just because his skin is pretty has his tongue moves so fast.
Good to whoever posted the video of Creflo on Youtube. This video should be watched by millions of people. The warning must go out about false preachers who only love $$$.
As to Eddie Long, yes God can forgive, but Long hasn’t even admitted to any wrongdoing, so what’s to forgive.
I hope there is an exodus of members from both Long and Dollar’s churches.
Didn’t know that Creflo changed his name from Michael Smith. Wow!
Tieuel Legacy! Motion says:
June 9, 2011 at 7:30 pm
Creflo’s vid was pulled but I read what he supposedly stated….
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^^ Video is fixed now. Thanks for the head’s up!
Somebody had NYTN’s(Not Your Typical Negro) Youtube page pulled, also. They didn’t want this so-called "wreck" talk leaked out over the net, DID THEY?If he is speaking the God’s honest truth, why hide your words of wisdom?
Ok Dr Dollar, I agreewith your point that he had a reck, but he is not in agreement that he had a reck. I think you should be a bit cautious saying he had a reck when he settle out of court avoiding something, but you say he had a reck. And who gave you to be the head of the Church? So you can forbid any from going to a particular body of Christ. Didn’t we hear preacher Clean say God said to him “they not yo members Clean, they Mine”.
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How you going to shepherd a flock if you SCREWING them over?
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Is Creflo Dollar his real name?
Yes. He was named after his father, Creflo A. Dollar Sr.
Wow, shame on me! I left a mega church after feeling sick and empty on what I saw going on. I didn’t speak against the church, some people were very happy worshiping the pastor and living pay check to pay check while he drives a Bentley. I just found a smaller more spirit (and not tithe) based church. However; for some reason I separated Creflo from the pack of "pimp preachers," but now my eyes are open! What’s sad is some of these men have great gifts to lead justly!
Never like neither one of those preachers, now I know why. What a shame.
I feel confident that Creflo Dollar is not sugarcoating Mr Long’s sin. He’s forgiving. That is God’s command. If some need to leave the church though, I feel they must do what is in their heart. We are all at differing places in our emotional and spiritual growth. If you loose respect for the Pastor and God allows you to leave, so be it. My Pastor and his wife separated and I stayed with the church. I refused to talk or listen to gossip. I covered them with prayer. A third of the members left. Why? Because they weren’t mature enough to keep their mouths shut and pray for their Pastor. So Mr Long’s sin is HUGE. It’s very BIG for a Pastor, that young boys trusted. BUT, God has forgiven him. We need to also. It’s God’s command. If you can’t do it, you’re in sin. However, if you need to leave, seek God. God may release you from such a Pastor. But believe me, Mr Long has suffered more inside than anything you could ever do to him. So see yourself needing the same kind of mercy. One day you will need mercy, if you haven’t already. Have compassion for his position, knowing it’s a huge error and has brought much horror to the boys he abused, their families, the church, everyone. But He’s a man of God and that means He would be miserable in that sin until he’s repented. Therefore, God will forgive and He expects us to also. Forgiveness doesn’t mean we deny the terrible wrong done. But we must get beyond judgment because judgment is for God alone. Some sins are much greater than others, but any one sin will keep anyone from Heaven. So don’t let your sin of judging or unforgiveness keep you out.
FIRST -Who really knows the truth in a case like this? ONLY GOD and the people involved. MICHAEL JACKSON was framed and the kids recanted their stories. ONE KILLED HIMSELF BECAUSE HE COULDN’T LIVE WITH THE SHAME OF DAMNING HIS FRIEND– MICHEL FOR MONEY. HE SAID HIS FATHER MADE HIM DO IT. BUT SHERRIE SHEPPARD NEVER GOT ON T.V. AND TALKED ABOUT THAT WOW. I AM NOT SAYING BISHOP LONG IS INNOCENT. I AM SAYING NOBODY KNOWS THE TRUTH BUT THEM. I HOPE SHE REPENTS FOR TOUCHING GOD’S ANOINTED. SAUL WAS GOD’S KING – EVIL- DESERVED DEATH AND HELL BUT DAVID KNEW BETTER THEN TO TOUCH HIM. THE LORD WILL REPAY ALL OF US IF WE DON’T REPENT OF OUR EVIL DEEDS. For me on the outside looking in they ALL have a convincing story. If I was a jurer I would wonder how all FOUR MEN chose the same lawyer and how does a child molestor only molest 4 in his lifetime. A PEDERPHILER can’t stop. It is a demon that attacks and attacks repeatively. The appetite gets stronger and stronger. JUST LIKE MIKE ALL THOSE YEARS ALL THOSE CHILDREN — ONLY 2 VICTIMS. HUUMMMM I never believed the lies on him because I knew him personally. He was eccentric, deliberately staged Howard Hughes Stunts to create the star sensationalism fans seek to make an artist a legend. I do believe he now regrets the life he choose — for without JESUS CHRIST AS OUR CHOICE — HELL WILL BE OUR ETERNAL HOME.
BUT THAT AGAIN –IS JUST MY OWN BELIEF.
NO AMOUNT OF DISCUSSION WILL EVER CHANGE THE FACT—- HE NEVER PUBLICLY CLAIMED CHRIST AS HIS SAVIOR. HE WAS A JEHOVA WITNESS AND HE HAS LEFT THE SAME FATE FOR HIS CHILDREN UNLESS MARLON’S WITNESS OR SOME ONE IS ABLE TO MAKE AN IMPACT INTO HIS FAMILY’S LIFE. GO SEE "YOUTUBE DEAD IN 23 HOURS HEAVEN AND HELL" I WONDER IF THAT WAS REALLY MICHAEL SHE SAW IN HELL AFTER SINGING ON EARTH SAVE THE WORLD –MAKE THIS A BETTER PLACE. (REMEMBER HE IS BETTER KNOWN FOR THRILLER.) THE 17 YEAR OLD GIRL WHO WENT TO HELL SAID "GOD SHOWED MICHAEL TO HER SCREAMING "STOP LISTENING TO MY SONGS. TELL EVERYBODY DON’T COME HERE." SO IF BISHOP DID THESE THINGS AND DOESN’T REPENT GOD WILL REPAY HIM TOO. KEEP WATCHING—- THE LORD IS THE JUDGE. MY HEART GOES OUT TO ALL THE MEN/NOT BOYS WHO PUBLICLY CLAIMED TO HAVE BEEN RAPED/SEDUCED. THEY SAID THEY WANTED THE TRUTH TOLD NOT THE MONEY. BUT WHEN THE MONEY CAME THEY ALL TOOK IT AND ARE GLADLY WAITING FOR THE REST TO COME. HUMMMMMMMMMM ALL SETLLEMENT ARE NOT WRONG — SOME PROVE THE HEARTS OF MEN. COULD IT BE THEY LIKED THE LIFESTYLE BISHOP GAVE THEM AND WHEN IT WAS GONE THEY GOT TOGETHER AND DECIDED TO TAKE THE MONEY FROM HIM? ARE THEY SEEKING THERAPY WITH THE MONEY OR BUYING CARS AND DOPE. FUNNY HOW EVERYBODY STILL BLAMES THE BISHOP EVEN NOW FOR THEIR ACTIONS.ONE WA JUST CAUGHT WITH DRUGS AND A GUY. NOW HE IS AFRAID WITH HIS NEW MONEY. I WAS A VICTIM OF RAPE AND CHILD MOLESTATION –OVER AND OVER -UNTIL I WAS 12. I NEVER WANTED MONEY — I WANTED THE PERSON STOPPED AND BEFORE CHRIST CAME INTO MY LIFE I WANTED THEM DEAD. BUT I DEFINITELY DIDN’T WANT MONEY. WHY DON’T THEY TAKE THAT MONEY AND GIVE IT TO SOME ORGANIZATION THAT IS HELPING VICTIMS OF CHILD MOLESTATION IF THEY DID IT FOR THE RIGHT REASON. ARE THEY STILL INVOLVED IN HOMOSEXUALITY? DID THEY HAVE A HISTORY OF HOMOSEXUALITY BEFORE THEY HUNG OUT WITH BISHOP. WHAT KIND OF YOUNG MAN WOULD ALLOW A PASTOR TO TOUCH HIM AFTER POSING AS HIS FATHERAND NOT TELL IT TILL A LAWSUIT FOR MONEY POPS UP. I WILL TELL YOU. ONE WHO IS AFTER MONEY FAME AND VALIDATION. TIME WILL TELL — WATCH THEIR LIVES. IF THE JUDGEMENT OF GOD COMES ON THEM AND THEY START TO BE CURSED EVERYWHERE THEY GO, THE WHOLE WORLD WILL KNOW –REMEMBER MICHAEL’S ACCUSERS COULDN’T LIVE WITH THEMSELVES OR THE GUILT. THAT GOES FOR EVERYONE WHO IS GUILTY AND DOESN’T REPENT. ONLY THE BLOOD OF JESUS CAN WASH AWAY OUR SINS. ONLY JESUS REALLY KNOWS. THE REST OF US INCLUDING ME ARE GUESSING. JUST MAKE SURE WHILE WE ARE SO BUSY JUDGING WHO’S RIGHT OR WRONG ASK GOD ABOUT YOURSELF. I AM MORE CONCERNED ABOUT WHAT’S WRONG WITH ME. I DON’T WANNA GO TO HELL. FOR ONE THING — HELL HAS NO EXISTS. FINALLY THE BIBLE SAYS "YE THAT ARE SPIRITUAL IF YOU FIND A MAN INFAULT RESTORE SUCH A MAN WITH A SPIRIT OF MEEKNESS LEST THE SAME THING COME ON YOU." SO EVERYBODY JUDGING/TALKING HAS A GREAT CHANCE OF BECOMING A PEDERPHILER AND A HOMOSEXUAL – JUDGEMENTAL AND A GOSSIP – AND YES THE FEMALE ON THAT SHOW IS A MURDERER WITH HER MOUTH. — BECAUSE SHE WERE NOT THERE. I WISH I COULD TALK TO HER IN PERSON LIKE SHE DOES TO THE WORLD — SHE HAVE RELEASED A CURSE ON HERSELF AND EVERYBODY WHO SIDES WITH HER. NOW WHO IS A FALSE PREACHER. WHOOPS! SORRY THAT’S JUST A WORLDLY T.V. SHOW FOR RATINGS. DOESN’T THAT MEAN THEY WANT MONEY TOO? WHAT GIVES THEM THE AUTHORITHY TO JUDGE MEN CALLED BY GOD. DO THEY EVEN GO TO ANY CHURCH. HUMMMMMMMMMMMMM THE GIRL ON DEAD 23 HOUR HEAVEN AND HELL DID SAY JESUS SHOWED HER A SPECIAL PLACE IN HELL HE HAD FOR ENTERTAINERS AND CELEBRITIES. DOES HE HAVE A ROOM FOR YOU? (LADY ON THE VIEW — YOU WANT MONEY TOO –0 HOW MANY ABUSED CHIDREN DO YOU REALLY SUPPORT OR GIVE BACK TOO. DO YOU HELP ANYBODY WITH YOUR MONEY? YOU NEED TO REPENT TOO. THE REST OF US WHO SAY WE ARE CHRISTIANS SHOUL BE PRAYING. THIS ISN’T AN ATTACK ON THOSE PEOPLE — THIS IS AN ATTACK ON THE BODY OF CHRIST. THE BIBLE TELLS US NOT TO GO BEFORE UNBELIEVERS OR COURT AGAINST OUR BROTHERS. TO FIND SOMEONE SPIRITUAL AMONG YOU TO JUDGE SUCH MATTERS. WHY DISN’T THEY GO TO HIS OVERSEERER — BISHOP TD JAKES AND WXPOSE HIM TO THEIR BISHOP? SEE IT IS ALL OUT OF ORDER. THE DEVIL IS LAUGHING HIS BUT OFF. BEWARE AFTER IT’S ALL OVER JESUS WILL SHOW UP AND GIVE EVERYMAN WHAT IS DUE TO HIM OR HER. I DON’T WANNA GO TO HELL! DO YOU?
FORGIVE TYPOS N PREVIOUS DOC. RETRACTION ON THE YOUNG MAN — HE WAS BUSTED WITH DRUGS AND A GUN NOT A GUY IN HIS CAR. WORDS CAN BE DEADLY WHEN SPOKEN IN FALSEHOOD. I BELEIVE A LOT OF RETRACTIONS ARE IN ORDER ESPECIALLY ABOUT DR DOLLAR. HE IS WALKING IN WHAT GOD COMMANDS HIM TO DO AS A PASTOR. RESTORE -LOVE – FORGIVE – AND EXPOSE TRUTH IN LOVE. NO BISHOP HE DIDN’T HAVE A WRECK – I AGREE — BUT WE DON’T KNOW IF HE HAD ANYTHING. GOD DOES.
I STILL SAY CHRISTIANS — PRAY
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God is his ONLY Judge..we as Chritians Must Pray for our leader’s as well as lost souls……..
Okay just about everybody is right. I understood exactly what Creflo was saying. Yes! Unfortunately it is true! Eddie Long has been forgiven by God as long as he has repented and it’s covered under the blood and God will never remember His sin again; and as long as he pushes to become more like Jesus until he dies he will go to heaven. Many people are acting like Jonah! Jonah didn’t want to go to Nineveh because he knew God was a merciful God and that He was going to give Nineveh the opportunity to repent so He could forgive them and not have to punish them. I am with Sherrie, if he was innocent why did he settle? However, he is still forgiven And he will still go to heaven! The question at this moment Is "Eddie Long… are you delivered?" If not then he needs to sit down and hand over his church to the God appointed person and bow out gracefully or sit down until his deliverance has come full circle. Hey people, God can still use this! god uses our mistakes all the time. How many sex offenders are there? Thousands! He will be able help thousands walk the walk of shame from abusing young children and never being trusted to being mighty and victorious in Christ! The second question for his congregation is "Congregation.. do you have a heart like God full of Agape love?" Love covers a multitude of sins. Please don’t misunderstand me. Loving the man does not mean ignoring the sin! The sin must be dealt with fiercly but the man should be loved… but he must repent and be delivered showing proof! My question though is where were his people that was suppose to hold him accountable for his sin? And seriously, where were the prophets?! A serious prophet would have shut him down before he even began that excursion! So, what happened!? And further more, seriously, congregation, where WERE YOU!! YOU HAVE DISCERNMENT!! What’s up with that!
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None of these TV preachers preach Acts 2:38 which is the true Gospel preached by Peter on the day of Pentecost(the birthday of the Church).If you are not baptized in the (expressed) Name of Jesus Christ he will not acknoledge you as his on the day of wrapture.The angels know this .The demons know this.That is why they are able to pull mega churches .They are in the pocket of the devil in the first place.Remember Jesus walked.He had beard.He washed the feet of the desciples before he was taken to be killed. Even his desciples did not like to work.They folded their aprons and decided to become preachers instead.They chose 7 men to do their jobs.they were 11 and chose one by thrwing dice.Poor God had to go and find the the zealous Paul to do the job of the 11 and send him to the Gentile .Paul later on scolded the 11 and called them super apostles because they were not working and living off of others.Paul said that if aman does not work does not eat and that includes the the pastors too.In the Old Testament the priests and levites did not have land to grow food and they had a lot of rituals to perform .So they could not have a job .Not so in the New testament .There is no more land of Israel and followers were supposed to go to the ends of the earth to preach the Gospel.The congregation of the saints should be important not one man.This is becoming idolatry.People are worshipping the priests.They should read the Bible.Now ,there are many Bibles and everybody knows how to read.People like to go to churches like this so they think they are ok.If they read the Bible and examin themselves they have to start to fix themselves but instead they go from pracher to preacher or the priests have to fly in new evangelists to keep them entertained because they really don’t want to change.If everyone in one city obeyed to one preaching only,now that city would be half better .I have seen people hear preachings for 20 years that I know and still gripping with the same problems.
Sherri is a divorced mother, not a single mother. There is a difference. Single moms have babies out of wedlock and are not married.
He may not have said exactly the things I would agree with, but here’s a thought: why should Creflo Dollar take on these church jumpers? Those people chose Long over Creflo. So you mean to tell me that those people never once heard apostasy from Long? Even Creflo gets his share of critics over his "prosperity" messages. And never once did Long’s congregation hear apostasy???
No, I think Creflo was basically also saying -you stuck with Eddie all this time, why you jumping ship because of this? Do your part as a member of Eddie’s congregation and pray for the pastor and stay in the bed you’ve made.
This is why I think is the message. Or, at least in part, anyway.
Dear Sir Bishop
Greetings in the Name of Yeshua HaMashiachJesus Christ our risen Lord and Saviour.I pray all is well with you.
Sir,I would like to request you to be my spiritual Father/Mentor in Ministry.I would like to work with you,under your spiritual covering(umbrella);under your leadership here in Mbeya Tanzania.East Africa.
Sir,I’m serving God in Village areas to unreached people planting Churches,where many people are dying from HIV and Malaria without knowing Jesus Christ as their own personal Lord and Saviour;where many preachers and Pastors do not want to go because of rough roads,poor communications and horrible situation of poverty.
Please Sir,assist me concerning my request and also pray for me.I would like to hear from you as soon as possible.
Thank you and God Bless you.
Yours in Christ,
Vincent Israel Mbarikiwa.
Pastor SACCT.
According to these scriptures: 1 Corinthians 5:1-13, James 1:26, James 2:1, James 5:16, 2 Corinthians 11: 1-4, 2 Corinthians 11:13-15, 1 John 4:1-31, Matthew18:15-19 and Galatians 6:1-6.
1. We find an incident in scripture where a man was having sexual relations with his father’s wife, possibly his own mother. Paul under the authority of the Holy Spirit was intolerable to this situation, however the man repented and the church forgave him. Consequently the Lord continued his fellowship with the brother.
2. We find in the scripture that if a person deceives his own heart scripture is useless.
Eddie Long has deceived his own heart by the fact that he settled out of court hiding evidence. Everyone who is a bible student knows that God exposes people in the scriptures who hold leadership positions in the church.
3. We should not hold our faith with partiality.
4. When it comes to a believer confessing his sins either in a ministerial position or as an individual we must confess our trespasses to one another that we may be healed and to bring it to the Lord in prayer together.
5. It is definitely possible for a person to have a position and be so called anointed and not actually be anointed by the spirit of the Lord. We call these false apostles and deceitful workers transforming themselves into apostles of Christ while appearing to righteous. If Eddie Long had a “wreck,” he would have confessed his “wreck” not someone else confessing for him. We must confess our faults to one another.
6. Anyone who confesses the Lord Jesus, must be tested with the context of the Word and with the right intention.
7. When a brother sins against another brother or when two brothers sin against each other, it is necessary that it be taken to the church. If the sin is not dealt with correctly, the person or persons should no longer have their position in the Church until the sin is dealt with.
When Lucifer fell he lost his position, Judas fell and lost his position, Balaam fell and lost his position, and Cain lost his position. Others fell but did not lose their position: Jonah, Peter, Samson, Adam, the prodigal son and Samson. They all came back in repentance.
Im glad i never moved my boys to atl..back in the 90′s………some black sexual confusion is errywhere..but between the strip club girls dancing for men..n choir boys singing in church…i have heard some sad stories…atl..is heaven & hell at the same damn time